Roundtable April 2004

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Resizing XP NTFS partitions
by Glen Ditchfield 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

I have a Windows XP machine, and I want to add SuSE 9.0. I want to cut the existing 39GB NTFS partition in half to make room. SuSE's installer tries, but brings up a dialog box saying that due to limitations of the software, the file system can only be shrunk by up to 3584 MB, and advises me to run a disk defragmentation program under Windows to move the used blocks toward the start of the partition. If I use the installer CD in rescue mode and try ntfsresize, it comes up with the same numbers. The Windows XP defragmenter shows the last half of the partition as being free. If I run it repeatedly, it claims to be compacting the same set of files over and over, but SuSE's "3584MB" number doesn't change. Some web searching turns up suggestions that XP's NTFS is different from earlier NTFS. Can ntfsresize really shrink the partition by more than 3584MB? Is Partition Magic my only hope?

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Re: [RndTbl] Resizing XP NTFS partitions
by Kevin McGregor 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

I'd make a backup first. On one occasion I resized an NTFS partition with Partition Magic, and the NTFS partition was unusable afterward. Generally PM works very well, though. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Reid <billreid(a)shaw.ca> Date: Monday, April 26, 2004 1:32 pm Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Resizing XP NTFS partitions > I have used parted successfully. I think I have used it on NTFS > file > system but it does say it supports it. > > http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/ > > Glen Ditchfield wrote: > > I have a Windows XP machine, and I want to add SuSE 9.0. I want > to cut the > > existing 39GB NTFS partition in half to make room. SuSE's > installer tries, > > but brings up a dialog box saying that due to limitations of the > software, > > the file system can only be shrunk by up to 3584 MB, and advises > me to run a > > disk defragmentation program under Windows to move the used > blocks toward the > > start of the partition. If I use the installer CD in rescue > mode and try > > ntfsresize, it comes up with the same numbers. > > > > The Windows XP defragmenter shows the last half of the partition > as being > > free. If I run it repeatedly, it claims to be compacting the > same set of > > files over and over, but SuSE's "3584MB" number doesn't change. > > > > Some web searching turns up suggestions that XP's NTFS is > different from > > earlier NTFS. Can ntfsresize really shrink the partition by > more than > > 3584MB? > > > > Is Partition Magic my only hope? > > _______________________________________________ > > Roundtable mailing list > > Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca > > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable > > > > _______________________________________________ > Roundtable mailing list > Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable >

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Re: [RndTbl] using yum to get apt-get or apt
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

According to Mel Seder: > The commands below aren't getting either apt-get or apt. How can I get these > debian favorites for Fedora CORE 1 ? > > > [root@p4 root]# yum install apt-get > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Base > Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Released Updates > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Cannot find a package matching apt-get > No actions to take > > [root@p4 root]# yum install apt > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Base > Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Released Updates > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Cannot find a package matching apt > No actions to take You don't seem to be searching any repositories other than the standard ones for Fedora Core 1 Base & Released Updates, and neither of these will include the apt package. Try adding the following repository to your /etc/yum.conf (or an alternative config file, if you don't want this in there by default): [dag] name=Fedora Core 1 Dag Wieers' repository baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/redhat/fc$releasever/en/i386/dag This repository does have an "apt" package available. (They've also got an "iftop" RPM package available for the most current version, 0.16, if you're interested in that one as well.) There may be other repositories available that also have "apt", but the above seems to work, and I haven't felt inclined to search further. -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca> Dept. of Computer Science Web: http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~gedetil/ University of Manitoba Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R3T 2N2 Fax: (204)474-7609

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using yum to get apt-get or apt
by Mel Seder 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

The commands below aren't getting either apt-get or apt. How can I get these debian favorites for Fedora CORE 1 ? [root@p4 root]# yum install apt-get Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Released Updates Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Cannot find a package matching apt-get No actions to take [root@p4 root]# yum install apt Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Released Updates Finding updated packages Downloading needed headers Cannot find a package matching apt No actions to take ===== The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. -Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784)

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Nvidia video card drivers & DVD
by millward 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

I'm running Red Hat 9.0. My video card is an Nvidia FX5200 128 DDR. XFree86 sees it as a generic FX. Is that good enough to view DVD movies with? I just bought a CD-RW/DVD-ROM for that specific purpose. Will I have to install the Nvidia driver file: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1.run or is the XFree86 generic driver good enough? I'd hate to have to install that NVIDIA driver since it demands I patch the kernel. I hate messing with kernels. Something always goes very wrong when I touch a kernel. Any advice would me most welcome!

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cable modem activity
by Mel Seder 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

I left the computer on and went for lunch. The computer wasn't doing anything that used the modem and I had no scheduled jobs. When I came back from lunch the cable model was going at full blast. Is there a command or something I can do to see what processes are running instead of just shutting down the computer? ===== The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. -Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784)

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Re: [RndTbl] SATA drives, nVidia GeForce, supported by FC1?
by Gilles Detillieux 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

Thanks, John. Better late than never. So it seems SATA is supported in 2.4 now only for some controllers and drives, but will be better supported in 2.4.27. It's still bleeding edge enough that I wouldn't recommend it to someone who isn't willing to fiddle a bit (or a lot) with it. We're hoping for something that will install and run "out of the box", so to speak. Good to know that progress is being made, though. According to John Lange: > This is certainly a late reply but I stumbled on this discussion about > Serial ATA today: > > http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2926 > > John > > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 21:10, Gilles Detillieux wrote: > > Hi, folks. One of our colleagues wants to put together a fairly sup'ed > > up PC to run our Linux based data capture and analysis software. He is > > planning on getting a Dell Optiplex GX270 Small MiniTower system (he's > > very keen on getting it from Dell), with a 120 GB SATA hard drive. > > > > Does anyone on this list have any experience with using SATA hard drives > > under Linux? I'd like him to use Fedora Core 1, as Red Hat's flavour of > > Linux is what I'm used to supporting (and our software is RPM packaged > > for Red Hat). I also think he might need to stick to the 2.4 kernel, > > as the driver for the A/D card we use hasn't (to my knowledge) ever been > > tested on anything but 2.2 and 2.4 kernels, so I'm a bit dubious about it > > working well with 2.6 for at least the next while. What I've read so far > > about SATA support on Linux, which isn't much, led me to believe not many > > SATA controllers are supported yet, and that SATA support seems to be in > > the 2.6 kernel. Has anyone tried SATA drives and do they work with 2.4? > > > > I've recommended he stick to standard ATA unless I hear of some success > > stories with SATA. > > > > A somewhat unrelated question: he was going to get this PC with an nVidia > > GeForce 4MX (with DVI & VGA outputs). I've never used this card (or any > > nVidia card for that matter - we tend to stick with ATI most of the time), > > so I was wondering if anyone knows if it plays well with FC1. I did > > a bit of quick googling this afternoon, but got somewhat mixed stories > > with some folks complaining of nVidia's drivers breaking after a kernel > > update, while some posts suggested no special drivers were needed for FC1. > > I'm not quite sure they were all talking about the same card though. > > Any words of wisdom? > > > > Thanks, > > Gilles > -- Gilles R. Detillieux E-mail: <grdetil(a)scrc.umanitoba.ca> Spinal Cord Research Centre WWW: http://www.scrc.umanitoba.ca/ Dept. Physiology, U. of Manitoba Winnipeg, MB R3E 3J7 (Canada)

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Fedora Core 2 on DVD vs CD
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

Hi all. At last night's MUUG meeting, several people expressed interest in getting Fedora Core 2, when it's released(*), on a DVD-ROM rather than the 4 CD-ROM's it will take, while others had a clear preference for CD's. What we'll likely do, though this still needs to be discussed at our next board meeting, is some of each. This is assuming, of course, that we have ready access to everything we need at the time. (*) Someone mentioned May 17 as the release date, which seems to agree with the currently posted schedule... http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ This means things have slipped a week since last time I checked. I had hoped we'd be able to distribute this new release at the May 11th meeting, which would have been kind of tight, but now that's not going to happen. So, even if the schedule slips a couple more weeks, we'll have no problems having Fedora Core 2 ready for distribution at the June 8th meeting. -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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burning a DVD with xcdroast
by Mel Seder 10 Apr '04

10 Apr '04

I am reading through documentation I found in http://www.xcdroast.org/manual/dvd.html It says ==11111=============================================================== Make sure you have a kernel version 2.4.x or higher. (you can test this with the command uname -a). Next, download the appropiate binary of cdrecord-ProDVD for your system from: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD For current linux distributions this would be the binary that ends in -i586-pc-linux-gnu, e.g. cdrecord-prodvd-2.01a12-i586-pc-linux-gnu What you downloaded is a binary, that means, it can directly be used. So, copy it to the xcdroast-bin directory (mostly /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin or /usr/local/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin). Name it "cdrecord.prodvd". (I spent 2 hours of error tracking because I renamed it to "cdrecord-prodvd", what is wrong!) Call chmod 755 cdrecord.prodvd to make it executable. ==11111================================================================= ==22222================================================================= uname -a returned the following for me: Linux p4 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl #1 Wed Feb 18 16:38:32 EST 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux the above was on one line but Yahoo Mail's word wrap forced "i386 GNU/Linux" to be on a seperate line. ==22222================================================================= ==33333================================================================= Im running an Intel P4 and going to ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD provides me with a list of files. My best guess for the file to download is cdrecord-prodvd-2.01a27-i686-pc-linux-gnu I was hoping to find a 2.4 in the file name but... Can anyone tell me if that is the correct file? ==33333================================================================= Is there perhaps a newer/other program that has DVD burning built right in to the application? ===== The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. -Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784)

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MUUG Meeting, April 13, 7:30PM -- Handheld Linux
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

[Posted to man.unix.general and other news groups] ------ Forwarded Article <c4v0m7$ae5$3(a)canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> ------ From gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, April 13. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: Handheld Linux Brian Doob will discuss running (and installing) Linux on a handheld computer. This will include a demonstration of a Compaq (now HP) iPaq running OPIE (the Open Palmtop Integrated Environment). OPIE is a complete open source environment for handheld computers. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30 PM on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our new meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15 PM, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30 PM. Don't be late, or you may not get in. Limited parking is available for free on the street, or in a lot across Ellice from IBM, for $1.00 for the evening. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $2.00 for the evening. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web site: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Also note that MUUG maintains several mailing lists, including these: "muug-announce" and "roundtable". If you're not already on these lists, we encourage you to subscribe now: http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/ The "muug-announce" list is used for monthly meeting announcements (such as this one) as well as other important announcements of interest to MUUG members. The "rountable" list is meant to be a forum for follow-ups to topics discussed at the meetings, or for round-table-style discussion on other topics that come up between meetings. Of course, for this to be effective, we need to reach a certain critical mass. So, please subscribe, and stay involved! -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ P.O. Box 130, St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609 ------ End of Forwarded Article

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Roundtable April 2004