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MUUG Meeting, Nov 14, 7:30pm -- SUSE Linux Enterprise 10
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 07 Nov '06

07 Nov '06

The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, November 14. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 "The platform for your Open Enterprise needs." That's how Novell describes SUSE Linux 10. Since it's purchase of SUSE, Novell has been positioning SUSE Linux as the one product line that will work from the desktop to the enterprise server. With this goal in mind, Novell has taken steps to provide greater power and security as well as to increase the "user friendliness" of SUSE Linux. In this presentation by Wayne Billing, of the University of Manitoba, we will see a brief overview of some of the things (AutoYAST, 3D desktop, AppArmor, XEN) that Novell is counting on to make SUSE Linux a viable choice for enterprise desktops and servers. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15pm, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30pm. Don't be late, or you may not get in. (But don't come too early either, since security may not be there to let you in before 7:15 or so.) Limited parking is available for free on the street, either on Ellice Ave. or on some of the intersecting streets. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $3.00 for the evening. Bicycle parking is available in a bike rack under video surveillance located behind the building on Webb Place. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Also note that MUUG maintains two mailing lists, called "muug-announce" and "roundtable". If you're not already on these lists, we encourage you to subscribe now: http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/ The "muug-announce" list is used for monthly meeting announcements (such as this one) as well as other important announcements of interest to MUUG members. The "rountable" list is meant to be a forum for follow-ups to topics discussed at the meetings, or for round-table-style discussion on other topics that come up between meetings. Of course, for this to be effective, we need to reach a certain critical mass. So, please subscribe, and stay involved! -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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Re: Roundtable Digest, Vol 23, Issue 2
by Steve Moffat 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

I only see these once per day, so if this has been offered already I apologize. But, speaking of Edgy and finding software over and above the Ubuntu install, have you seen Automatix? http://www.getautomatix.com/ pretty slick, especially for multimedia things. Steve IBM Global Services sjm(a)ca.ibm.com (204)934-2767 roundtable-reques t(a)muug.mb.ca Sent by: To roundtable-bounce roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca s(a)muug.mb.ca cc Subject 11/02/2006 12:00 Roundtable Digest, Vol 23, Issue 2 PM Please respond to roundtable(a)muug.m b.ca Send Roundtable mailing list submissions to roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to roundtable-request(a)muug.mb.ca You can reach the person managing the list at roundtable-owner(a)muug.mb.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Roundtable digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Ubuntu newbie question (Mike Pfaiffer) 2. Re: Ubuntu newbie question (Scott Balneaves) 3. Re: Ubuntu newbie question (Mike Pfaiffer) 4. Packages in Ubuntu (Mike Pfaiffer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:55:43 -0600 From: Mike Pfaiffer <high.res.mike(a)gmail.com> Subject: [RndTbl] Ubuntu newbie question To: roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca Message-ID: <45495E2F.3060508(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed OK. I shot myself in the foot with this one... I'll admit it up front. I did the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy. It went better than most. Suffice it to say I got the GUI back as well as a number of other things which messed up. While tracking down one problem (something wasn't finding files for verification I burned onto a DVD - source or copy I don't know) I figured the problem might have been a library (libdvdread1). I thought I'd uninstall and reinstall. The problem is it took out mplayer. Again I figured an uninstall and reinstall may do the trick. Well now I can't reinstall it or vlc because both depend on this library and the library is unavailable. Figured I'd try compiling it myself but Ubuntu complains about no acceptable C compiler in the path. Later Mike ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:00:25 -0600 From: Scott Balneaves <sbalneav(a)legalaid.mb.ca> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Ubuntu newbie question To: roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca Message-ID: <20061102030025.GA30390@localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 08:55:43PM -0600, Mike Pfaiffer wrote: > OK. I shot myself in the foot with this one... I'll admit it up front. > > I did the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy. It went better than most. > Suffice it to say I got the GUI back as well as a number of other things > which messed up. While tracking down one problem (something wasn't > finding files for verification I burned onto a DVD - source or copy I > don't know) I figured the problem might have been a library > (libdvdread1). I thought I'd uninstall and reinstall. The problem is it > took out mplayer. Again I figured an uninstall and reinstall may do the > trick. Well now I can't reinstall it or vlc because both depend on this > library and the library is unavailable. Have you re-enabled the universe and multiverse repositories? System -> Administration -> Software Sources. Scott -- Scott L. Balneaves | "Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us Systems Department | To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side..." Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Pink Floyd "High Hopes" ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:37:03 -0600 From: Mike Pfaiffer <high.res.mike(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Ubuntu newbie question To: roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca Message-ID: <454967DF.6080306(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Scott Balneaves wrote: > On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 08:55:43PM -0600, Mike Pfaiffer wrote: >> OK. I shot myself in the foot with this one... I'll admit it up front. >> >> I did the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy. It went better than most. >> Suffice it to say I got the GUI back as well as a number of other things >> which messed up. While tracking down one problem (something wasn't >> finding files for verification I burned onto a DVD - source or copy I >> don't know) I figured the problem might have been a library >> (libdvdread1). I thought I'd uninstall and reinstall. The problem is it >> took out mplayer. Again I figured an uninstall and reinstall may do the >> trick. Well now I can't reinstall it or vlc because both depend on this >> library and the library is unavailable. > > Have you re-enabled the universe and multiverse repositories? Actually I didn't. I just turned them on. Simple fix I didn't know about. > System -> Administration -> Software Sources. Works in KDE too. The path is System -> Software Source. > Scott > Thanks. Later Mike ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:51:34 -0600 From: Mike Pfaiffer <high.res.mike(a)gmail.com> Subject: [RndTbl] Packages in Ubuntu To: roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca Message-ID: <454A2216.6060004(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was going through the list of packages in the package manager. There is always something I don't want and I can remove (eg. IM clients). I found something interesting... There was a package titled rpm and the description matched what I used to do under Fedora. Has anybody tried it yet? Is it worth installing? Later Mike ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable End of Roundtable Digest, Vol 23, Issue 2 *****************************************

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Packages in Ubuntu
by Mike Pfaiffer 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

I was going through the list of packages in the package manager. There is always something I don't want and I can remove (eg. IM clients). I found something interesting... There was a package titled rpm and the description matched what I used to do under Fedora. Has anybody tried it yet? Is it worth installing? Later Mike

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Ubuntu newbie question
by Mike Pfaiffer 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

OK. I shot myself in the foot with this one... I'll admit it up front. I did the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy. It went better than most. Suffice it to say I got the GUI back as well as a number of other things which messed up. While tracking down one problem (something wasn't finding files for verification I burned onto a DVD - source or copy I don't know) I figured the problem might have been a library (libdvdread1). I thought I'd uninstall and reinstall. The problem is it took out mplayer. Again I figured an uninstall and reinstall may do the trick. Well now I can't reinstall it or vlc because both depend on this library and the library is unavailable. Figured I'd try compiling it myself but Ubuntu complains about no acceptable C compiler in the path. Later Mike

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Re: [RndTbl] Fedora mirror useless for yum
by Trevor Cordes 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

On 29 Oct, Sean Walberg wrote: > I'd almost think that establishing a local mirror would be easier on your > sanity! I would if the boxes were all local, but they're all scattered across the city. :-( > I don't think it's public knowledge. Gilbert announced it a few years ago > at a meeting when he was talking about how he was rate limiting FTP to > appease the UofM bandwidth police. Ah, if it's not a secret, best to put the info on the web site. If it is a secret, let's hope the enemy doesn't read the roundtable!

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Fedora mirror useless for yum
by Trevor Cordes 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

The MUUG mirror appears to be useless for using for yum updates. Running yum against it works for a while but often dies with: ---> Downloading header for ntp to pack into transaction set. ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/mirror/.1/fedora/linux/core/updates/4/i386/ntp-4.2.0.a.20050816-0.FC4.i386.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] [Errno ftp error] 502 Command REST not allowed by policy. Trying other mirror. It looks like REST is denied by ftp.muug.mb.ca and yum doesn't seem to provide a way to disable using REST. Any chance the server could be made to allow this? Or any chance of mirroring it via http too?

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Re: [RndTbl] Fedora mirror useless for yum
by Trevor Cordes 29 Oct '06

29 Oct '06

On 28 Oct, Sean Walberg wrote: > There's been an http mirror for a while. Same url structure any everything, > just use http instead of ftp, ie > > http://muug.mb.ca/pub/ Thanks! This'll make my yum upgrading of 10 fc3 boxes to fc5 much easier! With FC6 having just come out, all the RH-hosted mirrors are el-crappo. PS: I searched around the site for the info before posting but couldn't find a link or hint. There's a link to the FTP URL tree and a "search our www" link but no link to the above.

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Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 release. Release party, anyone?
by Scott Balneaves 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

Well, after a lot of hard work, we've managed to get the Eft out the door. http://www.ubuntu.com/news/610released Does anyone fancy a release party? Party, perhaps, being a bit of an overstatement, but if anyone would like to meet at a watering hole, to be decided here on the list, I could bring along some burned-and-magic-markered cd's for interested parties. Let me know! Scott -- Scott L. Balneaves | "Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us Systems Department | To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side..." Legal Aid Manitoba | -- Pink Floyd "High Hopes"

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experiences with 64-bit virtualisation?
by Gilles Detillieux 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

I'm thinking of putting together a system that can run both 32-bit (i686) and 64-bit (x86_64) versions of a few different Linux distros, as well as Windows XP (or maybe Vista) in a virtualised environment. The idea is to be able to build and test software for several Linux distros, as well as run a few required Windows applications. Do any of you have experience with running such a mix of virtual machines, and how would you recommend doing it? I noticed from VMware's web site that they claim to support such a mix. Are their others? How well do they work? Also, VMware seems to have a fairly limited set of Linux systems that can serve as host OS -- notably they support RHEL but not Fedora. Has anyone successfully used VMware under Fedora or under an RHEL clone system? Thanks for any advice you can provide. -- Gilles R. Detillieux E-mail: <grdetil(a)scrc.umanitoba.ca> Spinal Cord Research Centre WWW: http://www.scrc.umanitoba.ca/ Dept. Physiology, U. of Manitoba Winnipeg, MB R3E 3J7 (Canada)

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FC5 kernel rpm
by Trevor Cordes 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

Can the FC5 users out there do me a favor? Check your yum cache for the 2174 kernel-smp rpm: find /var/cache/yum/ | egrep 'kernel-smp.*2174.*rpm' If you have it, could you email it to me, or put in on the web somewhere, or arrange with me to setup FTP space for you? I desperately need this package as it's now 2 versions behind and so is no longer on the mirrors or anywhere I can find @redhat.com. I can't use 2187 as it has a horrible e1000 panic bug (206744), and I don't yet know if 2200 fixes it. I do know that 2174 is stable and I need to put it on another box. Thanks!

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