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Linus Torvalds at Windows 7 booth in Tokyo
by Gilles Detillieux 23 Oct '09

23 Oct '09

Just thought this would be of interest to the group... http://picasaweb.google.com/cschlaeger/JapanLinuxSymposium#5395358413061926… -- Gilles R. Detillieux E-mail: <grdetil(a)scrc.umanitoba.ca> Spinal Cord Research Centre WWW: http://www.scrc.umanitoba.ca/ Dept. Physiology, U. of Manitoba Winnipeg, MB R3E 0J9 (Canada)

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CISSE 2009 - Paper Submission Deadline Extended to October 26, 2009.
by CISSE 2009 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Dear Colleagues, Due to numerous deadline extension requests from potential CISSE 2009 authors, the CISSE organizing committee has decided to extend the paper submission deadline to 10/26/2009. Please note that this is a hard deadline, so that the technical committees can perform their paper reviewing duties in a timely manner. If you received this email in error, please forward it to the appropriate department at your institution. If you wish to unsubscribe please follow the unsubscribe link at bottom of the email. Please do not reply to this message. If you need to contact us please email us at info(a)cisse2009.org ********************************************************************* * The Fifth International Joint Conferences on Computer, * * Information, and Systems Sciences, and Engineering (CISSE 2009) * * * * * * * * http://www.cisse2009.org * * * * * * * ********************************************************************* December 4-12, 2009 Sponsored by the University of Bridgeport Technically co-sponsored by the IEEE Computer Society, Communications Society and Education Society (Connecticut Section) --------------------------------------------------------------------- CONFERENCE OVERVIEW --------------------------------------------------------------------- CISSE 2009 provides a virtual forum for presentation and discussion of the state-of the-art research on computers, information and systems sciences and engineering. CISSE 2009 is the fifth conference of the CISSE series of e-conferences. CISSE is the World's first Engineering/Computing and Systems Research E-Conference. CISSE 2005 was the first high-caliber Research Conference in the world to be completely conducted online in real-time via the internet. CISSE 2005 received 255 research paper submissions and the final program included 140 accepted papers, from more than 45 countries. CISSE 2006 received 691 research paper submissions and the final program included 390 accepted papers, from more than 70 countries. CISSE 2007 received 750 research paper submissions and the final program included 406 accepted papers. A total of 948 paper submissions were received for CISSE 2008 and the final program included 382 accepted papers, from more than 80 countries. The virtual conference will be conducted through the Internet using web-conferencing tools, made available by the conference. Authors will be presenting their PowerPoint, audio or video presentations using web-conferencing tools without the need for travel. Conference sessions will be broadcast to all the conference participants, where session participants can interact with the presenter during the presentation and (or) during the Q&A slot that follows the presentation. This international conference will be held entirely on-line. The accepted and presented papers will be made available and sent to the authors after the conference both on a DVD (including all papers, powerpoint presentations and audio presentations) and as a book publication. Springer, the official publisher for CISSE, published the 2005 proceedings in 2 books and the CISSE 2006, CISSE 2007 and CISSE 2008 proceedings in four books each. Conference participants - authors, presenters and attendees - only need an internet connection and sound available on their computers in order to be able to contribute and participate in this international ground-breaking conference. The on-line structure of this high-quality event will allow academic professionals and industry participants to contribute their work and attend world-class technical presentations based on rigorously refereed submissions, live, without the need for investing significant travel funds or time out of the office. The concept and format of CISSE is ground-breaking. The PowerPoint presentations, final paper manuscripts and time schedule for live presentations over the web are available for two weeks prior to the start of the conference for all registrants, so that the participants can choose the presentations they want to attend and think about questions that they might want to ask. The live audio presentations were also recorded and are part of the permanent CISSE on-line archive - accessible to all registrants- which also includes all the papers, PowerPoint and audio presentations. Potential non-author conference attendees who cannot make the on-line conference dates are encouraged to register, as the entire joint conferences will be archived for future viewing. The CISSE conference audio room provides superb audio even over low speed internet connections, the ability to display PowerPoint presentations, and cross-platform compatibility (the conferencing software runs on Windows, Mac, and any other operating system that supports Java). In addition, the conferencing system allows for an unlimited number of participants, which in turn granted us the opportunity to allow all CISSE participants to attend all presentations, as opposed to limiting the number of available seats for each session. Prospective authors are invited to submit full papers electronically in Microsoft Word or Adobe PDF format through the website of the conference at http://www.cisse2009.org. Accepted papers must be presented in the virtual conference by one of the authors. To submit your paper, please visit http://www.cisse2009.org CISSE 2009 is composed of the following four conferences: International Conference on Systems, Computing Sciences and Software Engineering (SCSS 09) Topics: Grid Computing, Internet-based Computing Models, Resource Discovery, Programming Models and tools, e-Science and Virtual Instrumentation, Biometric Authentication, Computers for People of Special Needs, Human Computer Interaction, Information and Knowledge Engineering, Algorithms, Parallel and Distributed processing, Modeling and Simulation, Services and Applications, Embedded Systems and Applications, Databases, Programming Languages, Signal Processing Theory and Methods, Signal Processing for Communication, Signal Processing Architectures and Implementation, Information Processing, Geographical Information Systems, Object Based Software Engineering, Parallel and Distributed Computing, Real Time Systems, Multiprocessing, File Systems and I/O, Kernel and OS Structures. International Conference on Telecommunications and Networking (TeNe 09) Topics: Optical Networks and Switching, Computer Networks, Network architectures and Equipment, Access Technologies, Telecommunication Technology, Coding and Modulation technique, Modeling and Simulation, Spread Spectrum and CDMA Systems, OFDM technology, Space-time Coding, Ultra Wideband Communications, Medium Access Control, Spread Spectrum, Wireless LAN: IEEE 802.11, HIPERLAN, Bluetooth, Cellular Wireless Networks, Cordless Systems and Wireless Local Loop, Mobile Network Layer, Mobile Transport Layer, Support for Mobility, Conventional Encryption and Message Confidentiality, Block Ciphers Design Principles, Block Ciphers Modes of Operation, Public-Key Cryptography and Message Authentication, Authentication Application, Stenography, Electronic Mail Security, Web Security, IP Security, Firewalls, Computer Forensics. International Conference on Engineering Education, Instructional Technology, Assessment, and E-learning (EIAE 09) Topics: Instructional Design, Accreditation, Curriculum Design, Educational Tools, 2-2-2 Platforms, Teaching Capstone Design, Teaching Design at the Lower Levels, Design and Development of e-Learning tools, Assessment Methods in Engineering, Development and Implementation of E-learning tools, Ethics in Education, Economical and Social Impacts of E-learning. International Conference on Industrial Electronics, Technology & Automation (IETA 09) Topics: Advanced and Distributed Control Systems, Intelligent Control Systems (NN, FL, GA, .etc), Expert Systems, Man Machine Interaction, Data Fusion, Factory Automation, Robotics, Motion Control, Machine Vision, MEMS Sensors and Actuators, Sensors Fusion, Power Electronics, High Frequency Converters, Motors and Drives, Power Converters, Power Devices and Components, Electric Vehicles and Intelligent Transportation, Process Automation, Factory Communication, Manufacturing Information System Advances in Manufacturing Systems, Industrial Applications of Multi Media, Intelligent Systems Instrumentation, Industrial Instrumentation, Modeling and Simulation, Signal Processing, Image and Data Processing, VR and Parallel systems.. Paper Submission ================= Prospective authors are invited to submit full papers electronically in Microsoft Word or Adobe PDF format through the website of the conference at http://www.cisse2009.org. Accepted papers must be presented in the virtual conference by one of the authors. To submit your paper, visit http://www.cisse2009.org New Paper submission Deadline: October 26th, 2009 Notification of Acceptance: November 12th, 2009 Final Manuscript and Registration: November 26th, 2009 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ S. Patel CISSE 2009 Support Team University of Bridgeport e-mail: info(a)cisse2009.org Bridgeport, CT 06604, U.S.A. http://www.cisse2009.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Click here on http://server1.streamsend.com/streamsend/unsubscribe.php?cd=3326&md=362&ud=… <http://server1.streamsend.com/streamsend/unsubscribe.php?cd=3326&md=362&ud=…> to update your profile or Unsubscribe

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MUUG Meeting, Oct 13, 7:30pm -- Jabber
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, October 13. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: Jabber Today, instant messaging is taken for granted. We use it to stay in constant contact with our friends and colleagues. There are some environments where it is not feasible or practical to use external IM services in a corporate environment. Like most things, there is an Open Source solution for that. In this case, we're talking about the Jabber instant messaging protocol. In this presentation, Darren Hildebrand and Sean Cody, from Prime Focus VFX, will talk about the Jabber system and show how the eJabberd implementation can be used to provide closed instant messaging services in a secure, simple and client-application agnostic way. They will also discuss what logging, auditing and authentication options are available. If you were ever interested in replacing or providing AIM/MSN/ICQ/gTalk functionality in your workspace this presentation is for you. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15pm, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30pm. Don't be late, or you may not get in. (But don't come too early either, since security may not be there to let you in before 7:15 or so.) Non-members may be required to show photo ID at the security desk. Limited parking is available for free on the street, either on Ellice Ave. or on some of the intersecting streets. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $5.00 for the evening. Bicycle parking is available in a bike rack under video surveillance located behind the building on Webb Place. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Help us promote this month's meeting, by putting this poster up on your workplace bulletin board or other suitable public message board: http://www.muug.mb.ca/meetings/MUUGmeeting.pdf -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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Call for Papers: The 5th CISSE International Conference
by CISSE 2009 23 Sep '09

23 Sep '09

Dear Colleagues, If you received this email in error, please forward it to the appropriate department at your institution. If you wish to unsubscribe please follow the unsubscribe link at bottom of the email. Please do not reply to this message. If you need to contact us please email us at info(a)cisse2009conference.org ********************************************************************** * The Fifth International Joint Conferences on Computer, * * Information, and Systems Sciences, and Engineering (CISSE 2009) * * * * http://search-friends-online.info/IEM/link.php?M=903861&N=7&L=1&F=T * * * ********************************************************************** December 4-12, 2009 Sponsored by the University of Bridgeport Technically co-sponsored by the IEEE Computer Society, Communications Society and Education Society (Connecticut Section) --------------------------------------------------------------------- CONFERENCE OVERVIEW --------------------------------------------------------------------- CISSE 2009 provides a virtual forum for presentation and discussion of the state-of the-art research on computers, information and systems sciences and engineering. CISSE 2009 is the fifth conference of the CISSE series of e-conferences. CISSE is the World's first Engineering/Computing and Systems Research E-Conference. CISSE 2005 was the first high-caliber Research Conference in the world to be completely conducted online in real-time via the internet. CISSE 2005 received 255 research paper submissions and the final program included 140 accepted papers, from more than 45 countries. CISSE 2006 received 691 research paper submissions and the final program included 390 accepted papers, from more than 70 countries. CISSE 2007 received 750 research paper submissions and the final program included 406 accepted papers. A total of 948 paper submissions were received for CISSE 2008 and the final program included 382 accepted papers, from more than 80 countries. The virtual conference will be conducted through the Internet using web-conferencing tools, made available by the conference. Authors will be presenting their PowerPoint, audio or video presentations using web-conferencing tools without the need for travel. Conference sessions will be broadcast to all the conference participants, where session participants can interact with the presenter during the presentation and/or during the Q&A slot that follows the presentation. This international conference will be held entirely on-line. The accepted and presented papers will be made available and sent to the authors after the conference both on a DVD (including all papers, PowerPoint presentations and audio presentations) and as a book publication. Springer, the official publisher for CISSE, published the 2005 proceedings in 2 books and the CISSE 2006, CISSE 2007 and CISSE 2008 proceedings in four books each. Conference participants - authors, presenters and attendees - only need an internet connection and sound available on their computers in order to be able to contribute and participate in this international ground-breaking conference. The on-line structure of this high-quality event will allow academic professionals and industry participants to contribute their work and attend world-class technical presentations based on rigorously refereed submissions, live, without the need for investing significant travel funds or time out of the office. The concept and format of CISSE is ground-breaking. The PowerPoint presentations, final paper manuscripts and time schedule for live presentations over the web had been available for weeks prior to the start of the conference for all registrants, so that the participants can choose the presentations they want to attend and think about questions that they might want to ask. The live audio presentations were also recorded and are part of the permanent CISSE on-line archive - accessible to all registrants - which also includes all the papers, PowerPoint and audio presentations. Potential non-author conference attendees who cannot make the on-line conference dates are encouraged to register, as the entire joint conferences will be archived for future viewing. The CISSE conference audio room provides superb audio even over low speed internet connections, the ability to display PowerPoint presentations, and cross-platform compatibility (the conferencing software runs on Windows, Mac, and any other operating system that supports Java). In addition, the conferencing system allowed for an unlimited number of participants, which in turn granted us the opportunity to allow all CISSE participants to attend all presentations, as opposed to limiting the number of available seats for each session. Prospective authors are invited to submit full papers electronically in Microsoft Word or Adobe PDF format through the website of the conference at: http://search-friends-online.info/IEM/link.php?M=903861&N=7&L=1&F=T Accepted papers must be presented in the virtual conference by one of the authors. To submit your paper, please visit http://search-friends-online.info/IEM/link.php?M=903861&N=7&L=1&F=T CISSE 2009 is composed of the following four conferences: International Conference on Systems, Computing Sciences and Software Engineering (SCSS 09) Topics: Grid Computing, Internet-based Computing Models, Resource Discovery, Programming Models and tools, e-Science and Virtual Instrumentation, Biometric Authentication, Computers for People of Special Needs, Human Computer Interaction, Information and Knowledge Engineering, Algorithms, Parallel and Distributed processing, Modeling and Simulation, Services and Applications, Embedded Systems and Applications, Databases, Programming Languages, Signal Processing Theory and Methods, Signal Processing for Communication, Signal Processing Architectures and Implementation, Information Processing, Geographical Information Systems,Object Based Software Engineering, Parallel and Distributed Computing, Real Time Systems, Multiprocessing, File Systems and I/O, Kernel and OS Structures. International Conference on Telecommunications and Networking (TeNe 09) Topics: Optical Networks and Switching, Computer Networks, Network architectures and Equipment, Access Technologies, Telecommunication Technology, Coding and Modulation technique, Modeling and Simulation, Spread Spectrum and CDMA Systems, OFDM technology, Space-time Coding, Ultra Wideband Communications, Medium Access Control, Spread Spectrum, Wireless LAN: IEEE 802.11, HIPERLAN, Bluetooth, Cellular Wireless Networks, Cordless Systems and Wireless Local Loop, Mobile Network Layer, Mobile Transport Layer, Support for Mobility, Conventional Encryption and Message Confidentiality, Block Ciphers Design Principles, Block Ciphers Modes of Operation, Public-Key Cryptography and Message Authentication, Authentication Application, Stenography, Electronic Mail Security, Web Security, IP Security, Firewalls, Computer Forensics. International Conference on Engineering Education, Instructional Technology, Assessment, and E-learning (EIAE 09) Topics: Instructional Design, Accreditation, Curriculum Design, Educational Tools, 2-2-2 Platforms, Teaching Capstone Design, Teaching Design at the Lower Levels, Design and Development of e-Learning tools, Assessment Methods in Engineering, Development and Implementation of E-learning tools, Ethics in Education, Economical and Social Impacts of E-learning. International Conference on Industrial Electronics, Technology & Automation (IETA 09) Topics: Advanced and Distributed Control Systems, Intelligent Control Systems (NN, FL, GA, .etc), Expert Systems, Man Machine Interaction, Data Fusion, Factory Automation, Robotics, Motion Control, Machine Vision, MEMS Sensors and Actuators, Sensors Fusion, Power Electronics, High Frequency Converters, Motors and Drives, Power Converters, Power Devices and Components, Electric Vehicles and Intelligent Transportation, Process Automation, Factory Communication, Manufacturing Information System Advances in Manufacturing Systems, Industrial Applications of Multi Media, Intelligent Systems Instrumentation, Industrial Instrumentation, Modeling and Simulation, Signal Processing, Image and Data Processing, VR and Parallel systems. 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MUUG Board Elections - FINAL CALL for Nominations
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 22 Sep '09

22 Sep '09

Hear ye, hear ye! This is FINAL CALL for nominees to participate in the election for the MUUG board. Those elected will serve from October 2009 until October 2010. The deadline to nominate yourself, or someone else, is September 29, 2009. Instructions follow. The MUUG board is charged with coordinating the meetings and other events by the group. It's fun, and you get a role in guiding the group. All are encouraged to apply. ------------------------ MUUG Board Elections - Call for Nominations Every October the Manitoba Unix User Group holds its Annual Meeting, the main goals of which are to elect a new Board of Directors and to pass any special resolutions. (Aside from that, it is a regular meeting) Any MUUG member in good standing can be nominated to run for a position on the Board. As of this writing, the following members of the current Board have let their names stand for re-election: Sean Cody Senior System Admin. Prime Focus VFX Services Gilbert Detillieux Systems Analyst University of Manitoba Michael Doob Professor University of Manitoba Kevin McGregor Network Analyst City of Winnipeg Montana Quiring Systems Administrator University of Manitoba Doug Shewfelt Systems Specialist City of Winnipeg Adam Thompson Consultant athompso.net Of course, this list is just a starting point. Any member in good standing of the group can be nominated simply by getting the support of one other member. If you feel you would like to contribute to the group by running for a board position, please don't hesitate to do so. (In fact, we'd like to see the number of board members increase.) If you want to be nominated, or to nominate someone else, send a letter to the group's postal box or deliver it in person to a current board member. The letter must contain the name, title, and employer of the nominee, along with a short (100 word or so) biography, and must contain the signatures of the nominee and one other member. The letter must be received no later than September 29, 2009, which is 14 days prior to the October 13 meeting. Although the by-laws require that the nominations be done in writing, with signatures, you can speed up the process by sending e-mail to <election(a)muug.mb.ca>, with the above information, and sending the signed paper copy later. In this case, please include the e-mail address of both the nominee and the supporter on the CC: list of the message, so that all parties concerned have a record of the communication. Nominees should familiarize themselves with the MUUG bylaws, found here: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/bylaws/ If you have any questions about the election or the nomination process, please contact Gilbert Detillieux, either by phone (474-8161) during business hours, or by e-mail to <election(a)muug.mb.ca> anytime. Gilbert Detillieux Election Committee Chair ------------------------ -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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Watching servers?
by Kevin McGregor 18 Sep '09

18 Sep '09

Hey all, Not actually UNIX related, but since a lot of you are network admins you might have some suggestions. I'd like to keep an eye on a bunch of servers (~20) but all I need to know is which ones are up or down, and if they're down, when they were last "seen". Does anyone know of a simple, free tool that will do that? I don't want details like number of packets lost or any such. Mostly I want to know which machines shut down and in what order. Thanks in advance, Kevin

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Jumpy mice
by Daniel J. Salomon 15 Sep '09

15 Sep '09

At the last meeting I reported my problems with jumpy optical mice. I had similar problems with five mice made by Logitech, Microsoft, and a generic manufacturer. Every few minutes, the mice would cause the cursor to jump unpredictably to the top or bottom of the screen. The cursor would then have to be dragged back to the working area. An old fashioned ball mouse had no such problems although ball mice have their own annoying deficiencies. On the advice of one of the members, I tried a laser mouse. I bought a Logitech MX400 Performance Laser Mouse for about $50. It solved my problems. It gives smooth and reliable response. I had previously thought that the word "laser" in mouse descriptions was just advertising hype and provided no actual advantage over an optical mouse. Thank you to whoever it was that made that suggestion. Daniel Salomon

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Fwd: Copyright legislation input
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 08 Sep '09

08 Sep '09

FYI... ------------------------------------ Subject: Copyright legislation input From: Bill <bill3(a)uniserve.com> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:48:10 -0700 Hello, I wonder if you would re-post this email to your groups mailing list? It's self explanatory and should be of concern to many technical folks. Thank you. Bill Hi, I'm Bill McGrath. I write software, am a Director of the Vancouver Linux User Group and am a founding member of the Vancouver Fair Copyright Coalition. I'm writing today with respect the ongoing consultation on copyright in Canada. The federal government intends to introduce new legislation early next year and is presently soliciting input from ordinary Canadians. This process will end on Sunday, September 13, 2009, so there is about one week left for you to contribute your voice to the chorus of Canadians who are deeply concerned about the changes that lobbyists for transnational conglomerates are demanding to copyright law. When Bill C-61 was tabled in the House of Commons there was widespread outrage at such a ham-fisted attempt to deal with complex and sensitive issues. Fortunately, it was dropped when Parliament was porogued. One of the strongest criticisms of Bill C-61 was that government had not consulted the people. But now we have our chance. Government has decided to listen. I'm sure you've all heard of the DMCA and it's downside. We definitely don't want this in Canada. We need you to send an email to government. Of course, most people aren't experts. They don't know what to say. So we've put together a submission guideline that hits the main general points and a number of specific points of special concern to technical folk - programmers, administrators, technicians and so on. Sending an email will take as little as ten minutes. I'm sure you can find time in the next week to voice your concerns. Numbers matter, so each and every email counts. Our 4 Step Submission Guideline for technical folk contains all you need to know to put together an email. It includes examples, a glossary of terms and links to more information. It lives at: http://faircopy.ca/participate Please find the time, before Sunday, September 13th to express your concerns to the government. Invite your friends and cross post this email where it will help to get the word out. Thank you for your time and your contribution. Democracy will prevail. Bill

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MUUG Meeting, Sept 8, 7:30pm -- Connecting your Computer
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, September 8. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: Connecting your Computer to the Real World This month, Adam Thompson will be covering the dizzying array of I/O ports and technologies available for making connections to (or from) your computer. There's at least three ways to hook up a monitor; at least three ways to connect a keyboard and mouse; at least five ways to hook up a printer or scanner... Do you actually know what all those ports on the back do? What plugs into where? Does UNIX support them all equally? Which one is best (in any given circumstance)? We'll attempt to answer these questions for you. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15pm, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30pm. Don't be late, or you may not get in. (But don't come too early either, since security may not be there to let you in before 7:15 or so.) Non-members may be required to show photo ID at the security desk. Limited parking is available for free on the street, either on Ellice Ave. or on some of the intersecting streets. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $5.00 for the evening. Bicycle parking is available in a bike rack under video surveillance located behind the building on Webb Place. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Help us promote this month's meeting, by putting this poster up on your workplace bulletin board or other suitable public message board: http://www.muug.mb.ca/meetings/MUUGmeeting.pdf -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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Tips for using grub?
by John Lange 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

Just wondering if anyone has any tips on using grub? The grub command that writes the MBR is "setup (hdX)". The problem is figuring out which drive is the "root" drive. In a situation where you are trying to write the MBR on a drive that isn't the one you booted from, this turns out to be non-trivial. You can use grub's "find" command to look for a file like "find /boot/grub/grub.conf", but if several attached drives have the same file than this doesn't help much. Even worse, if the system is multipathed, the same device will be returned several times. I have a system here that I'm testing with and it has 4 paths to each device. The "find" command returns 4 results for every attached device. Anyone have a tip for how to figure out which one is the one I want? BTW, I'm trying to document this for a recovery procedure so it would be common to have several attached devices with almost identical file systems. --- John Lange www.johnlange.ca

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