Re: [RndTbl] Roundtable Digest, Vol 56, Issue 8
I was curious about a n810 or earlier model a month ago, but I found them difficult to find here. Anywhere I found them was almost *twice* the price of what it was in the U.S. Many of the site I was looking at seemed outdated, but even the up-to-date sites were disappointing. I even contacted a few stores Nokia had listed as retailers, and they did not carry them. The Nokia site isn't the mess it was a month or two ago, but still... I ended up settling on an Archos 5, which Best Buy has on sale, but out of stock. Future Shop matches the price, so I got the 60 GB model for about $250. I briefly considered an Ipod Touch, but apparently it doesn't play nice with Linux. I think I should write an article to tell you folks what usability and trinkets are like... On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM, <roundtable-request@muug.mb.ca> wrote:
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1. Re: New Linux Maemo Device (Montana Quiring)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:02:40 -0500 From: Montana Quiring <montanaq@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] New Linux Maemo Device To: MUUG Roundtable <roundtable@muug.mb.ca>, Zaurus Users of Manitoba <zum@muug.mb.ca> Message-ID: <bdad73b60908280602l230a3f9dtcd1f179c744a4cdd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
This just got announced too:
http://www.h-online.com/open/Sharp-launch-Linux-based-Netwalker-in-Japan--/n...
Japan only though. :( -MQ
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Montana Quiring <montanaq@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I know there's more then a few of us that are interested in and excited about this announcement! http://cli.gs/n900announce
-- -Montana
I am wondering how I can connect my Mac to a device over ethernet, when I have no control over the device's IP address. I recently purchased HDHomeRun, a dual TV tuner that connects via ethernet. The idea of it is to be able to stream video content to any machine on your network. My network has static IP addresses, so just plugging it into the hub and searching for the device does not work. I understand that it is a DHCP client. There is no documentation with the device, such as a default IP address if one exists. I will only use the video on one machine at present, my Mac. Wikipedia indicates that the device "will also work via an auto IP address if no DHCP server is available". Instructions meant for Windows (different document) talk about assigning an IP address of 169.254.x.x to the network interface. I am far from clear on how that works. If the NIC I use to attach the HDHomeRun has such an IP address, does the HDHomeRun know to configure itself with a similar address? The Mac's network preferences GUI allows 4 choices: DHCP, DHCP with manual address, BootP, and Manual. None of these seems to work. I can't even be sure if the device works - but LEDs come on. Does anyone have suggestions, other than changing my entire network to DHCP? Can you have some nodes on a network get addresses by DHCP while others are static? -Dan Dan Martin GP Hospital Practitioner Computer Scientist ummar143@shaw.ca (204) 831-1746 answering machine always on
Dan Martin wrote:
I am wondering how I can connect my Mac to a device over ethernet, when I have no control over the device's IP address.
I recently purchased HDHomeRun, a dual TV tuner that connects via ethernet. The idea of it is to be able to stream video content to any machine on your network.
My network has static IP addresses, so just plugging it into the hub and searching for the device does not work. I understand that it is a DHCP client. There is no documentation with the device, such as a default IP address if one exists.
I will only use the video on one machine at present, my Mac. Wikipedia indicates that the device "will also work via an auto IP <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address> address if no DHCP server is available". Instructions meant for Windows (different document) talk about assigning an IP address of 169.254.x.x to the network interface.
I am far from clear on how that works. If the NIC I use to attach the HDHomeRun has such an IP address, does the HDHomeRun know to configure itself with a similar address? The Mac's network preferences GUI allows 4 choices: DHCP, DHCP with manual address, BootP, and Manual. None of these seems to work.
I can't even be sure if the device works - but LEDs come on.
Does anyone have suggestions, other than changing my entire network to DHCP? Can you have some nodes on a network get addresses by DHCP while others are static?
-Dan
Dan Martin GP Hospital Practitioner Computer Scientist ummar143@shaw.ca <mailto:ummar143@shaw.ca> (204) 831-1746 answering machine always on
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The simplest solution to solve your problem in my opinion would be to setup a dhcp server. If you're not positive that the device actually uses dhcp by default you could plug it into your laptop, turn it off, start wireshark or another packet monitor and see if it broadcasts. With a dhcp server you can specify specific IP addresses for specific mac addresses, meaning that you wouldn't have a problem with running static IP's only, since it would be possible to continue your current numbering pattern without problems. Limiting the dhcp server to only give an address to a specific mac address would be the way I would go, once you've made sure that the device actually broadcasts looking for an address. All the best, Robert Keizer
Well, how do you connect to the Internet at home? Through some kind of wired or wireless router? Often, they have a DHCP server built-in and enabled by default, and your tuner box may get one from there. If that was the case, you could check the web interface of the router to see which addresses it handed out, and probably the only one would be for your new tuner device. Kevin On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Dan Martin <ummar143@shaw.ca> wrote:
I am wondering how I can connect my Mac to a device over ethernet, when I have no control over the device's IP address.
I recently purchased HDHomeRun, a dual TV tuner that connects via ethernet. The idea of it is to be able to stream video content to any machine on your network.
My network has static IP addresses, so just plugging it into the hub and searching for the device does not work. I understand that it is a DHCP client. There is no documentation with the device, such as a default IP address if one exists.
I will only use the video on one machine at present, my Mac. Wikipedia indicates that the device "will also work via an auto IP<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address>address if no DHCP server is available". Instructions meant for Windows (different document) talk about assigning an IP address of 169.254.x.x to the network interface.
I am far from clear on how that works. If the NIC I use to attach the HDHomeRun has such an IP address, does the HDHomeRun know to configure itself with a similar address? The Mac's network preferences GUI allows 4 choices: DHCP, DHCP with manual address, BootP, and Manual. None of these seems to work.
I can't even be sure if the device works - but LEDs come on.
Does anyone have suggestions, other than changing my entire network to DHCP? Can you have some nodes on a network get addresses by DHCP while others are static?
-Dan
Dan Martin GP Hospital Practitioner Computer Scientist ummar143@shaw.ca (204) 831-1746 answering machine always on
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On November 19, 2009 06:00:46 pm Dan Martin wrote:
I recently purchased HDHomeRun, a dual TV tuner that connects via ethernet. The idea of it is to be able to stream video content to any machine on your network.
The support section of the silicondust website has some instructions for setting up with MythTV: http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/instructions/mythtv which mention a Linux utility that they distribute: hdhomerun_config. The Ubuntu Community Documentation page for the HDHomeRun https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HDHomeRun says that "hdhomerun_config discover" will dump out the unit's device ID and IP number. So, if you have a Linux computer somewhere else on the network, you might be able to use it to find out what IP the HDHomerun thinks it has. Here's a MythTV thread about HDHomeRun and static networks, which makes it sound difficult: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/364589 However, the last note in this thread seems to claim that your Mac can become a DHCP server for the HDHomerun, just by turning on Internet Sharing. That's news to me. http://www.123macmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=101362
Thanks Glen! I don't know what exactly happens with the Internet Sharing - but I turned it on, and the command line scanning program is finally able to see the device and report an IP address for it. I guess this enables the airport base station to assign act as a DHCP server and assign an address to a connected device? Does internet sharing set up a bridge between devices connected to the Mac by other ethernet ports, and the airport base? In any case, that single change has enabled detection of the device. -Dan On 19-Nov-09, at 9:43 PM, Glen Ditchfield wrote:
However, the last note in this thread seems to claim that your Mac can become a DHCP server for the HDHomerun, just by turning on Internet Sharing. That's news to me. http://www.123macmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=101362 _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
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169.254.0.0/16 is the DHCP autoconfigure address. Any host that tries to get a DHCP address, but fails, will pick a random address out of that network. The idea is that if everyone uses that network, you can still have communication between hosts. If you want to go that route (pardon the pun) then you could always give your Mac a second IP address of 169.254.1.1/255.255.0.00 and it will be able to talk to the HDHomeRun box... as long as you know the address of the tuner. Alternatively, set up a DHCP server to serve addresses within your subnet. You can safely run statically addressed machines and DHCP machines together. Configure your DHCP server to only use a small range of hosts that won't conflict with your static addresses. The static machines will work, the DHCP machines will get their address with DHCP. Sean On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Dan Martin <ummar143@shaw.ca> wrote:
I am wondering how I can connect my Mac to a device over ethernet, when I have no control over the device's IP address.
I recently purchased HDHomeRun, a dual TV tuner that connects via ethernet. The idea of it is to be able to stream video content to any machine on your network.
My network has static IP addresses, so just plugging it into the hub and searching for the device does not work. I understand that it is a DHCP client. There is no documentation with the device, such as a default IP address if one exists.
I will only use the video on one machine at present, my Mac. Wikipedia indicates that the device "will also work via an auto IP<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address>address if no DHCP server is available". Instructions meant for Windows (different document) talk about assigning an IP address of 169.254.x.x to the network interface.
I am far from clear on how that works. If the NIC I use to attach the HDHomeRun has such an IP address, does the HDHomeRun know to configure itself with a similar address? The Mac's network preferences GUI allows 4 choices: DHCP, DHCP with manual address, BootP, and Manual. None of these seems to work.
I can't even be sure if the device works - but LEDs come on.
Does anyone have suggestions, other than changing my entire network to DHCP? Can you have some nodes on a network get addresses by DHCP while others are static?
-Dan
Dan Martin GP Hospital Practitioner Computer Scientist ummar143@shaw.ca (204) 831-1746 answering machine always on
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