Roundtable November 2014

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IBM "clicky" keyboards
by Adam Thompson 13 Oct '16

13 Oct '16

Enough people have wondered/asked/complained to me about this that I'm posting this now as a public service. IBM Model "M" keyboards are still available, *NEW*, today. They are expensive, but they are the original design that you can use as a melee weapon. The catch is that they don't say "IBM" or even "Lexmark" on them. They are available for purchase from the manufacturer, Unicomp, who can be found online at http://www.pckeyboard.com/. You can also find some vintage NIB units from time to time at http://www.clickykeyboards.com/. There are also a number of other manufacturers now making similar, but not quite as good, keyboards. - CVT Inc., the maker of the Avant Stellar (I own two of them), which is the direct descendant of the Northgate Omnikey, seems to have restructured and no trace of their keyboard manufacturing operation can be found online. However, Northgate keyboards are still available new-in-box from (this is a horrible site, beware) http://www.northgate-keyboard-repair.com/. - The Happy Hacking keyboard (now owned by Fujitsu, apparently) is equally comforting to some people despite having a totally different feel. They, and many others, can be had from http://www.elitekeyboards.com/ - Das Keyboard - Anything using Cherry MX Green, Blue, or White keyswitches. The "green" switches apparently are the closest anyone's come yet to emulating the IBM/Lexmark/Unicomp switches... and they can be had in MUCH cheaper keyboards, like the Rosewill RK-9000 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040 and http://techreport.com/review/23405/rosewill-rk-9000-series-mechanical-ke yboards-reviewed). - And there are an increasing number (yes, again, after the big die-off ca. 2009) of speciality manufacturers of "ergonomic" keyboards that are making clicky keyswitches available as an option. One of the better ones is a tiny shop in Ontario, but I can't find the name right now. References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_keyboard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicomp http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX -Adam Thompson athompso(a)athompso.net

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SpamAssassin false positives on DATE_IN_FUTURE_96_Q?
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

I mentioned this problem at the last round-table session, but didn't get a solution, so I thought I'd post it here, just in case anyone has any suggestions to offer. I'm still seeing a whole bunch of false positives in SpamAssassin, since an update was installed in mid-September on a CentOS 5.7 system, for a rule called DATE_IN_FUTURE_96_Q, which is only supposed to be triggered when the "Date:" header has a date that is 4 days to 4 month ahead of the date in the "Received" header that has the _smallest_ difference in date. Here are the headers from the latest e-mail I've received with this false-positive. (I've stripped out irrelevant headers, for the sake of clarity and simplicity.) From topfivestories(a)messagent.itworldcanada.com Mon Nov 14 07:50:13 2011 Received: from mail.messagent.itworldcanada.com (mail.messagent.itworldcanada.com [207.112.10.80]) by palladium.cs.umanitoba.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id pAEDoAxV028594 for <gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:50:12 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:50:13 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DATE_IN_FUTURE_96_Q, HTML_MESSAGE,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on palladium.cs.umanitoba.ca Note that I'm calling spamd via the spamass-milter on a system running sendmail. Note also, that in the above example, the only "Received" header was the one generated by my own server. (I've had other false positives, however, with multiple "Received" headers, all of which were within seconds of the time in the "Date" header.) Any ideas? -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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big scanner
by Trevor Cordes 27 May '15

27 May '15

Does anyone have big (like tabloid or bigger) scanner they want to sell? Even an ancient SCSI or parallel one might be ok. I just want *big*. Do they even make scanners bigger than legal or tabloid?

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weird cert problem
by Trevor Cordes 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

Does anyone else get a cert error on this site: https://taxcess.gov.mb.ca/ It's invalid in Firefox (latest F19 version: 33.1, just came out today) on Linux. But it works ok on Chrome in Windows. Chrome shows the cert is brand new this month (I had never had a problem with their site before). Weird that a trust-validated site like that would have cert problems, unless they chose a no-name CA? Unless someone is MitM'ing me...

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Re: [RndTbl] Roundtable Digest, Vol 119, Issue 3
by Brock Wolfe 22 Nov '14

22 Nov '14

My Thinkpad A31p has served me well as a portable workstation. I have install AntiX Linux (lightweight distro) which works, but is too slow. Not the fault of the distro, but the Thinkpad is limited by amount of ram that can be used. Looking to replace with a current or used workstation grade laptop. Brock On 11/22/2014 12:00 PM, roundtable-request(a)muug.mb.ca wrote: > Message: 3 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:05:37 -0600 From: Adam Thompson > <athompso(a)athompso.net> To: Continuation of Round Table discussion > <roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] ThinkPad on last legs > Message-ID: <546FD351.7060606(a)athompso.net> Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 14-11-21 05:54 PM, Brock Wolfe wrote: >> >I am looking for any recommendations for a Laptop to run Linux. My >> >Thinkpad is on its last legs. >> >Brock > Depends on what you want to do with the system. > Thinkpads (mostly W, T and X series) are always good choices. L, S and > Edge series should be OK nowadays, too. > Dell Latitude and Precision models are good Thinkpad substitutes as a rule. > The more "business"-oriented the laptop, the better the build quality > (usually), and although it'll cost more, much more likely to work out of > the box with Linux without any fiddling or unsupported components. > > If you're using Ubuntu or Arch, it appears that almost anything will > work acceptably well nowadays. > > Used business-class or workstation-class laptops can be a better choice > than a brand-new consumer-grade laptop. > > Also, Thinkpads can last a very long time - what do you think is wrong > with your current laptop? > > -- -Adam Thompson athompso(a)athompso.net

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ThinkPad on last legs
by Brock Wolfe 22 Nov '14

22 Nov '14

I am looking for any recommendations for a Laptop to run Linux. My Thinkpad is on its last legs. Brock

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Re: [RndTbl] Roundtable Digest, Vol 119, Issue 2
by Michael Doob 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

Using Opera, the site gives a message: The certificate for "Entrust Certification Authority - L1K" is signed by the unknown Certificate Authority "Entrust Root Certification Authority - G2". It is not possible to verify that this is a valid certificate. Cheers, Michael On 14-11-21 12:00 PM, roundtable-request(a)muug.mb.ca wrote: > Send Roundtable mailing list submissions to > roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > roundtable-request(a)muug.mb.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > roundtable-owner(a)muug.mb.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Roundtable digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. weird cert problem (Trevor Cordes) > 2. Re: weird cert problem (Hartmut W Sager) > 3. Re: weird cert problem (Gilles Detillieux) > 4. Re: weird cert problem (Gilles Detillieux) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:14:00 -0600 > From: Trevor Cordes <trevor(a)tecnopolis.ca> > To: MUUG RndTbl <roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca> > Subject: [RndTbl] weird cert problem > Message-ID: <20141121001400.2528e690(a)pog.tecnopolis.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Does anyone else get a cert error on this site: > > https://taxcess.gov.mb.ca/ > > It's invalid in Firefox (latest F19 version: 33.1, just came out today) > on Linux. But it works ok on Chrome in Windows. Chrome shows the cert > is brand new this month (I had never had a problem with their site > before). > > Weird that a trust-validated site like that would have cert problems, > unless they chose a no-name CA? > > Unless someone is MitM'ing me... > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:24:54 -0600 > From: Hartmut W Sager <hwsager(a)marityme.net> > To: Continuation of Round Table discussion <roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca> > Subject: Re: [RndTbl] weird cert problem > Message-ID: > <CAGQr3cUs_WSN+HAEVFHh+0TZ-VtzAc5ve0Noo2-r_pv2g+SJVQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I just tested it, and I also get the "untrusted" treatment, using Windows > Vista and Firefox 33.1.1 (which is a Firefox upgrade I just got in the last > 2-3 days). > > Hartmut W Sager - Tel +1-204-339-8331 > > > On 21 November 2014 00:14, Trevor Cordes <trevor(a)tecnopolis.ca> wrote: > >> Does anyone else get a cert error on this site: >> >> https://taxcess.gov.mb.ca/ >> >> It's invalid in Firefox (latest F19 version: 33.1, just came out today) >> on Linux. But it works ok on Chrome in Windows. Chrome shows the cert >> is brand new this month (I had never had a problem with their site >> before). >> >> Weird that a trust-validated site like that would have cert problems, >> unless they chose a no-name CA? >> >> Unless someone is MitM'ing me... >> _______________________________________________ >> Roundtable mailing list >> Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca >> http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable >> >

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[Muug] MUUG Meeting, Nov 18, 7:30pm -- LiveCode
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 10 Nov '14

10 Nov '14

The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, November 18. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: LiveCode This month, Brad Vokey will give a demonstration of LiveCode: an open source, cross-platform, rapid application development language. LiveCode evolved from MetaCard (the original Unix HyperCard clone) into becoming a true cross-platform IDE capable of running on iOS, Android, OS X, Windows, and several variations of Unix including Linux, Solaris, and BSD. It can be used to write mobile, desktop and server/CGI applications and is the most widely used HyperCard/HyperTalk clone. LiveCode uses a high level, English-like programming language that is dynamically typed and tightly integrated to your program's interface. The language and compile-free work flow generate code that is self-documenting and very easy for casual programmers to comprehend. As this month's RTFM topic, Wyatt Zacharias will compare and contrast the curl(1) and wget(1) commands. Please note change in meeting date for this month. This month's meeting is also the Annual General Meeting, where we will have an election (most likely by acclamation) for the new MUUG board of directors for the 2014-2015 year. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ***************************************************************** Please note our *NEW* meeting location for this month: Room 1L08, Lockhart Hall, University of Winnipeg, entrance on Ellice Ave. between Spence St. and Balmoral St. Parking is available on the surrounding streets and in the lots on nearby streets. Look for signage once you're at the building, or ask a security guard. ***************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Help us promote this month's meeting, by putting this poster up on your workplace bulletin board or other suitable public message board: http://www.muug.mb.ca/meetings/MUUGmeeting.pdf -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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Roundtable November 2014