Roundtable June 2012

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SpamAssassin false positives on DATE_IN_FUTURE_96_Q?
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

I mentioned this problem at the last round-table session, but didn't get a solution, so I thought I'd post it here, just in case anyone has any suggestions to offer. I'm still seeing a whole bunch of false positives in SpamAssassin, since an update was installed in mid-September on a CentOS 5.7 system, for a rule called DATE_IN_FUTURE_96_Q, which is only supposed to be triggered when the "Date:" header has a date that is 4 days to 4 month ahead of the date in the "Received" header that … [View More]

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Forward of moderated message
by muug-announce-bounces＠muug.mb.ca 23 Sep '12

23 Sep '12

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SGI Wikipedia project - neat
by Adam Thompson 30 Jun '12

30 Jun '12

http://www.sgi.com/go/wikipedia/ Kind of neat… all done using an SGI UV 2000 (http://www.sgi.com/products/servers/uv/models.html#uv2000) using Perl scripts and GraphViz running under either SuSE or RHEL, not sure which. I shudder to think of how much data was parsed to come up with these images. -Adam Thompson athompso(a)athompso.net

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Re: [RndTbl] Business Basic BBx Data Extraction
by Adam Thompson 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

Oh, FYI... The reason I thought I could do a BBx app migration was that I used to be a BBx programmer. Fat lot of good it did me. -Adam Adam Thompson <athompso(a)athompso.net> wrote: >You haven't been led astray - flat file goes not necessarily mean text or human-readable. The data is in an ISAM format, and you will either need to locate and purchase one of the data extraction tools that used to be on the market, or write an extraction routine yourself in BBx. >There is a very … [View More]small amount of information out there about their file format, if you want to try writing a BBx decoding library from scratch. >It might be much easier to set up a dummy printer and print out each patient's complete file - there's likely a print routine in the software. Then take the output and parse it with your favourite programming language. If you get fancy with a printcap definition, you might find ways of making the parsing easier. This still might require a temp sitting at a terminal for several days printing one file at a time. >I've done one AIX to Linux conversion of a BBx app... I'm never doing that again except on a time-and-materials basis, for about $500/hr with no estimates up front. >BBx is a decent programming language (especially for its time) but they have (or had, it's been a few years) absolutely no idea how to package their software, or how to build it in a portable manner. I remember having to exclude libc from updates because the interpreter would break on anything except the EXACT version they had compiled against. >Which, fyi, means any system running a BBx app probably has multiple exploitable bugs that have long since been patched. >Have fun, >-Adam > > >Michael Sierks <msierks(a)gwn.ca> wrote: > >>Hello All, >> >>I have an issue with some software that is well before my time and was >>hoping someone from the muug group would be of assistance. I have been >>tasked with extracting data from the following program. >> >>Assyst Practice Managment (GENIE) Software >>V8.8.6 an Emergis Inc. Product(STX.EME) >> >>This program itself is running on an old AIX 5.1 server and has been >>written in BBx Pro5, a language I didn't even know existed. This >>language appears to be an extension of Basic and is know as Business >>Basic. Written by this company. >> >>http://www.basis.com/. >> >>Now the trouble is this program has no built in way of >>dumping/extracting the data. It isn't using Pro/5's built in data >>storage engine so I cannot simply use ODBC to pull the data out. We have >>been informed it is storing all its data in a flat file. And the best >>way to retrieve the data is by reading backups from the tape drive, >>which we have done so. The data files retrieved mostly end in the ".REC" >>and ".SUB" file extensions and appear to contain some patient info. But >>the largest file that seems to contain most data begins with the text >>"<<bbx>>" and is definetely not stored as flatfile. >> >>Does anyone have experience with this BBx language or does anybody have >>any ideas for extracting the data ? I ask because the company that has >>written this practice management software has no interest in assisting >>with exporting the data. Any suggestions are appreciated. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Roundtable mailing list >>Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca >>http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable > >_______________________________________________ >Roundtable mailing list >Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca >http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable [View Less]

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Re: [RndTbl] Business Basic BBx Data Extraction
by Adam Thompson 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

You haven't been led astray - flat file goes not necessarily mean text or human-readable. The data is in an ISAM format, and you will either need to locate and purchase one of the data extraction tools that used to be on the market, or write an extraction routine yourself in BBx. There is a very small amount of information out there about their file format, if you want to try writing a BBx decoding library from scratch. It might be much easier to set up a dummy printer and print out each … [View More]patient's complete file - there's likely a print routine in the software. Then take the output and parse it with your favourite programming language. If you get fancy with a printcap definition, you might find ways of making the parsing easier. This still might require a temp sitting at a terminal for several days printing one file at a time. I've done one AIX to Linux conversion of a BBx app... I'm never doing that again except on a time-and-materials basis, for about $500/hr with no estimates up front. BBx is a decent programming language (especially for its time) but they have (or had, it's been a few years) absolutely no idea how to package their software, or how to build it in a portable manner. I remember having to exclude libc from updates because the interpreter would break on anything except the EXACT version they had compiled against. Which, fyi, means any system running a BBx app probably has multiple exploitable bugs that have long since been patched. Have fun, -Adam Michael Sierks <msierks(a)gwn.ca> wrote: >Hello All, > >I have an issue with some software that is well before my time and was >hoping someone from the muug group would be of assistance. I have been >tasked with extracting data from the following program. > >Assyst Practice Managment (GENIE) Software >V8.8.6 an Emergis Inc. Product(STX.EME) > >This program itself is running on an old AIX 5.1 server and has been >written in BBx Pro5, a language I didn't even know existed. This >language appears to be an extension of Basic and is know as Business >Basic. Written by this company. > >http://www.basis.com/. > >Now the trouble is this program has no built in way of >dumping/extracting the data. It isn't using Pro/5's built in data >storage engine so I cannot simply use ODBC to pull the data out. We have >been informed it is storing all its data in a flat file. And the best >way to retrieve the data is by reading backups from the tape drive, >which we have done so. The data files retrieved mostly end in the ".REC" >and ".SUB" file extensions and appear to contain some patient info. But >the largest file that seems to contain most data begins with the text >"<<bbx>>" and is definetely not stored as flatfile. > >Does anyone have experience with this BBx language or does anybody have >any ideas for extracting the data ? I ask because the company that has >written this practice management software has no interest in assisting >with exporting the data. Any suggestions are appreciated. > >_______________________________________________ >Roundtable mailing list >Roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca >http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable [View Less]

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Business Basic BBx Data Extraction
by Michael Sierks 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

Hello All, I have an issue with some software that is well before my time and was hoping someone from the muug group would be of assistance. I have been tasked with extracting data from the following program. Assyst Practice Managment (GENIE) Software V8.8.6 an Emergis Inc. Product(STX.EME) This program itself is running on an old AIX 5.1 server and has been written in BBx Pro5, a language I didn't even know existed. This language appears to be an extension of Basic and is know as … [View More]

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More announcements by CIRA
by Dan Keizer 15 Jun '12

15 Jun '12

Continuing on with CIRA's strategic investments, like Bill had mentioned at the prior meeting ... this one was good to see: http://www.opendnssec.org/ Dan.

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Need help with Solaris printing
by Kevin McGregor 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

I just upgraded a Solaris 10 server from Update 4 to Update 9, and the main (network) printer it uses stopped working. In /etc/printers.conf, the printer shows up as cowsvpprmom:\ :bsdaddr=192.168.59.113,GENERAL_ENTRY,Solaris: but lpstat -a says cowsvpprmom not accepting requests since Mon Jun 11 11:07:44 2012 unknown reason I checked the destination, and I can telnet to port 515 (lpd), so there's no firewall change. The Solaris print service on this client is running. The … [View More]

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Ubuntu sleep?
by Kevin McGregor 09 Jun '12

09 Jun '12

I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop PC, and I've found that I only have the option to hibernate or power off, and not sleep! Is this normal? A motherboard/BIOS issue? Google doesn't show up anything useful. And I have 12 GB of RAM so hibernating is slow, and after hibernating it doesn't come back anyway. :-P Kevin

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What is WebOps? Get the New FREE Radar Report by Mike Loukides
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 08 Jun '12

08 Jun '12

FYI... --------------------------------------------- View in browser <http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zcbis98stntojfrebnht2crgcie6412ksbm4ocoo>. O'Reilly - Books and Videos Infrastructure as Code What is DevOps? <http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zagcep9avn133sv5nvnmjef300qqjgi81mpjvqfo> Get the New FREE Radar Report by Mike Loukides The *continuing NoOps/DevOps controversy* is a tempest in a teapot that arises from a misunderstanding of what "operations" and, in turn, … [View More]

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Roundtable June 2012