Last night on CBC, ZeD aired "Revolution OS". In conjunction with that, they announced: "As of January 6th, 2005, the code base that powers zed.cbc.ca is available under the Apache License 2.0." http://zed.cbc.ca/opensource (link is very slow at the moment due to slash . effect). Now all they need to do is fix their web site so it displays properly with something other than IE. -- John Lange