When MTS did this, it was a HUGE inconvience,
"On Sunday August 29th through to Sunday September 12th, we will begin blocking access to the ports commonly used to send spam and viruses on MTS High Speed Internet and Dial-up Internet services." Year 2004, just so you have your info correct, I remember haveing this 'issue' dealing with some of the customer calls I took as a tech.
MTS only allows their SMTP servers to be used from inside the MTS network and you can not use anybody else's SMTP servers....
When I was at home, I had to change my outlook settings (I had all mail forwarded to my cell phone as a text message, instant notification of when a mail arrived), when I got to work, I had to change the SMTP server to the companies ISP's server.
That was by far my biggest complaint. However, had I known about SSH Tunneling a few years ago... I would have used that.
Shaw blocking mail, its way more annoying that they block access to the pop server when using a non-Shaw account. (last time I checked, I don't use Shawmail anymore)
Anybody concerned, my Shaw SOHO plan with Tiers 1, 2, and 3 is $90/month tax included (taken from my last statement), which is VERY close to what residential services are. Call to cancel the residential, then call Business Care, since you're already setup, cabling is done, you have a modem, ask the CSR to wave the $100 install fee... Mine did... And then you also get the 5 IPs instead of just 2.
In case anyone's curious, the Shaw SOHO package starts at $66: http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/BusinessInternet/SOHOPack...
I'm not sure if they would package this (i.e. give a discount) if this was 'combined' with Shaw phone and/or Shaw analog or digital cable.
----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Scott muug@lighteningsys.ca Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:06 pm Subject: [RndTbl] Blocking Port 25
When MTS did this, it was a HUGE inconvience,
"On Sunday August 29th through to Sunday September 12th, we will begin blocking access to the ports commonly used to send spam and viruses on MTS High Speed Internet and Dial-up Internet services." Year 2004, just so you have your info correct, I remember haveing this 'issue' dealing with some of the customer calls I took as a tech.
MTS only allows their SMTP servers to be used from inside the MTS network and you can not use anybody else's SMTP servers....
When I was at home, I had to change my outlook settings (I had all mail forwarded to my cell phone as a text message, instant notification of when a mail arrived), when I got to work, I had to change the SMTP server to the companies ISP's server.
That was by far my biggest complaint. However, had I known about SSH Tunneling a few years ago... I would have used that.
Shaw blocking mail, its way more annoying that they block access to the pop server when using a non-Shaw account. (last time I checked, I don't use Shawmail anymore)
Anybody concerned, my Shaw SOHO plan with Tiers 1, 2, and 3 is $90/month tax included (taken from my last statement), which is VERY close to what residential services are. Call to cancel the residential, then call Business Care, since you're already setup, cabling is done, you have a modem, ask the CSR to wave the $100 install fee... Mine did... And then you also get the 5 IPs instead of just 2.
Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
Mine went out this morning... Thanks for sending the note around, Trevor.
Changing the smarthost to shawmail.wp.shawcable.net worked just fine. They're not blocking inbound mail, and I'm not picky about how my mail gets out, given I forward it all to gmail these days anyway.
Sean
On 5/23/07, Kevin McGregor kmcgregor@shaw.ca wrote:
In case anyone's curious, the Shaw SOHO package starts at $66:
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/BusinessInternet/SOHOPack...
I'm not sure if they would package this (i.e. give a discount) if this was 'combined' with Shaw phone and/or Shaw analog or digital cable.
----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Scott muug@lighteningsys.ca Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:06 pm Subject: [RndTbl] Blocking Port 25
When MTS did this, it was a HUGE inconvience,
"On Sunday August 29th through to Sunday September 12th, we will begin blocking access to the ports commonly used to send spam and viruses on MTS High Speed Internet and Dial-up Internet services." Year 2004, just so you have your info correct, I remember haveing this 'issue' dealing with some of the customer calls I took as a tech.
MTS only allows their SMTP servers to be used from inside the MTS network and you can not use anybody else's SMTP servers....
When I was at home, I had to change my outlook settings (I had all mail forwarded to my cell phone as a text message, instant notification of when a mail arrived), when I got to work, I had to change the SMTP server to the companies ISP's server.
That was by far my biggest complaint. However, had I known about SSH Tunneling a few years ago... I would have used that.
Shaw blocking mail, its way more annoying that they block access to the pop server when using a non-Shaw account. (last time I checked, I don't use Shawmail anymore)
Anybody concerned, my Shaw SOHO plan with Tiers 1, 2, and 3 is $90/month tax included (taken from my last statement), which is VERY close to what residential services are. Call to cancel the residential, then call Business Care, since you're already setup, cabling is done, you have a modem, ask the CSR to wave the $100 install fee... Mine did... And then you also get the 5 IPs instead of just 2.
Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
On 23 May, Sean Walberg wrote:
Mine went out this morning... Thanks for sending the note around, Trevor.
Mine just went too, when I woke up today. And one other customer of mine is hosed too. I still have about 10 other customers who *aren't* blocked. Nice consistency! I've written a little it of code into my service-watcher scripts to check for blocked smtp then auto-notify me via a shawmail-routed email address. I'll watch as they fall one by one.
As for "net bigotry", I'm an administrator of about 20 separate sites run off of do-it-all linux firewall/servers. As an admin, I can unequivocally say that I'd much rather have port 25 open and deal with the spam myself (greylisting, bayes, etc), than have to deal with ISP's mail servers. It's a matter of control. With my own MTA talking direct to the recipient MTA, I know an email got through, at least out of my end of the "cloud". With Shaw/MTS in the way, they can drop whatever email they like without a bounce just because it fits into some program's overaggressive idea of what spam is. In addition, the delays introduced by Shaw/MTS can often be horrible. Lastly, it completely farks up my DK/SPF setup, neither of which handles smarthost forwarding very well.
Of course, I've said this all before, and I know some disagree with me, mostly those who have dedicated/static pipes on the corporate budget.
To me, it's all about freedom: "bit freedom", don't tell me what I can and can't do with my bits. At least I know Stallman would be on my side ;-)
On 23-May-07, at 2:28 PM, Kevin McGregor wrote:
In case anyone's curious, the Shaw SOHO package starts at $66: http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/BusinessInternet/ SOHOPackage.htm
I'm not sure if they would package this (i.e. give a discount) if this was 'combined' with Shaw phone and/or Shaw analog or digital cable.
They do.
shawn
-
Kevin McGregor -
Kevin Scott -
Sean Walberg -
Shawn Wallbridge -
Trevor Cordes