[RndTbl] talk/ntalk

Has anyone gotten talk or ntalk working on a modern distro in the last few years? I can't get talk to work in Fedora 30 no matter what I do. It installs with a systemd setup but it won't start that way. I tried doing it the old xinetd way, but that doesn't seem to work either. Seems impossible? Any other ideas for extremely simple command line 2-person chat that uses no external servers (no I don't want to setup my own irc server! hopefully!)? Don't tell me I'll have to write my own... Thanks!