Roundtable August 2009

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Re: [RndTbl] Roundtable Digest, Vol 56, Issue 8
by Kat 20 Nov '09

20 Nov '09

I was curious about a n810 or earlier model a month ago, but I found them difficult to find here. Anywhere I found them was almost *twice* the price of what it was in the U.S. Many of the site I was looking at seemed outdated, but even the up-to-date sites were disappointing. I even contacted a few stores Nokia had listed as retailers, and they did not carry them. The Nokia site isn't the mess it was a month or two ago, but still... I ended up settling on an Archos 5, which Best Buy has on sale, but out of stock. Future Shop matches the price, so I got the 60 GB model for about $250. I briefly considered an Ipod Touch, but apparently it doesn't play nice with Linux. I think I should write an article to tell you folks what usability and trinkets are like... On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM, <roundtable-request(a)muug.mb.ca> wrote: > Send Roundtable mailing list submissions to > roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > roundtable-request(a)muug.mb.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > roundtable-owner(a)muug.mb.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Roundtable digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: New Linux Maemo Device (Montana Quiring) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:02:40 -0500 > From: Montana Quiring <montanaq(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [RndTbl] New Linux Maemo Device > To: MUUG Roundtable <roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca>, Zaurus Users of Manitoba > <zum(a)muug.mb.ca> > Message-ID: > <bdad73b60908280602l230a3f9dtcd1f179c744a4cdd(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > This just got announced too: > > http://www.h-online.com/open/Sharp-launch-Linux-based-Netwalker-in-Japan--/… > > Japan only though. :( > -MQ > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Montana Quiring <montanaq(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I know there's more then a few of us that are interested in and excited > > about this announcement! > > http://cli.gs/n900announce > > > > -- > > -Montana > > > > >

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Tips for using grub?
by John Lange 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

Just wondering if anyone has any tips on using grub? The grub command that writes the MBR is "setup (hdX)". The problem is figuring out which drive is the "root" drive. In a situation where you are trying to write the MBR on a drive that isn't the one you booted from, this turns out to be non-trivial. You can use grub's "find" command to look for a file like "find /boot/grub/grub.conf", but if several attached drives have the same file than this doesn't help much. Even worse, if the system is multipathed, the same device will be returned several times. I have a system here that I'm testing with and it has 4 paths to each device. The "find" command returns 4 results for every attached device. Anyone have a tip for how to figure out which one is the one I want? BTW, I'm trying to document this for a recovery procedure so it would be common to have several attached devices with almost identical file systems. --- John Lange www.johnlange.ca

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New Linux Maemo Device
by Montana Quiring 28 Aug '09

28 Aug '09

Hello, I know there's more then a few of us that are interested in and excited about this announcement! http://cli.gs/n900announce -- -Montana

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MUUG Board Elections - Call for Nominations
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

Hear ye, hear ye! This is a preliminary call for nominees to participate in the election for the MUUG board. Those elected will serve from October 2009 until October 2010. The deadline to nominate yourself, or someone else, is September 29, 2009. Instructions follow. The MUUG board is charged with coordinating the meetings and other events by the group. It's fun, and you get a role in guiding the group. All are encouraged to apply. ------------------------ MUUG Board Elections - Call for Nominations Every October the Manitoba Unix User Group holds its Annual Meeting, the main goals of which are to elect a new Board of Directors and to pass any special resolutions. (Aside from that, it is a regular meeting) Any MUUG member in good standing can be nominated to run for a position on the Board. As of this writing, the following members of the current Board have let their names stand for re-election: Sean Cody Senior System Admin. Prime Focus VFX Services Gilbert Detillieux Systems Analyst University of Manitoba Michael Doob Professor University of Manitoba Kevin McGregor Network Analyst City of Winnipeg Montana Quiring Systems Administrator University of Manitoba Doug Shewfelt Systems Specialist City of Winnipeg Adam Thompson Consultant athompso.net Of course, this list is just a starting point. Any member in good standing of the group can be nominated simply by getting the support of one other member. If you feel you would like to contribute to the group by running for a board position, please don't hesitate to do so. (In fact, we'd like to see the number of board members increase.) If you want to be nominated, or to nominate someone else, send a letter to the group's postal box or deliver it in person to a current board member. The letter must contain the name, title, and employer of the nominee, along with a short (100 word or so) biography, and must contain the signatures of the nominee and one other member. The letter must be received no later than September 29, 2009, which is 14 days prior to the October 13 meeting. Although the by-laws require that the nominations be done in writing, with signatures, you can speed up the process by sending e-mail to <election(a)muug.mb.ca>, with the above information, and sending the signed paper copy later. In this case, please include the e-mail address of both the nominee and the supporter on the CC: list of the message, so that all parties concerned have a record of the communication. Nominees should familiarize themselves with the MUUG bylaws, found here: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/bylaws/ If you have any questions about the election or the nomination process, please contact Gilbert Detillieux, either by phone (474-8161) during business hours, or by e-mail to <election(a)muug.mb.ca> anytime. Gilbert Detillieux Election Committee Chair ------------------------ -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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Fwd: USENIX SustainIT '10 Call For Papers Now Available
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: USENIX SustainIT '10 Call For Papers Now Available Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:32:15 -0700 From: Lionel Garth Jones <lgj(a)usenix.org> The Program Committee for the the First USENIX Workshop on Sustainable Information Technology (SustainIT '10) invites you to submit your papers. Increasingly, designers of computer systems ranging from small mobile devices to massive datacenters are concerned with sustainable design, including both power and life-cycle costs; these costs should include manufacturing, operation, and disposal of IT systems. We seek papers that evaluate energy-related issues and their aforementioned trade-offs, present novel new ideas, challenge and/or debunk past and present practices, and more. We especially encourage papers that discuss not just energy issues but also how they interact with other dimensions in a sustainable manner. The scope of this workshop is broad, covering research, theory, hardware, software, applications, techniques, etc.--all related to making computing systems greener. Topics of interest related to energy-sustainable computing include but are not limited to: * Energy vs. performance, cost, reliability, usability, security, etc. * Evaluations of long-term total costs of ownership (TCOs, e-waste, growth rates, recycling, etc.) * Total Impact of Ownership (TIO) in the long run (even decades-long) * Workload reduction techniques (e.g., compression, dedup) * Application of virtualization, cloud computing, clustering, and workload management * Hardware-based techniques (e.g., new electronics, clock-gating, disaggregation) * Firmware-based techniques (e.g., APM, ACPI) * Right-sizing techniques (e.g., DVFS, DRPM) * Use of FLASH and other novel storage media * Impact of storage hardware and software stacks * Application-optimization techniques (e.g., compiler-based) * Theory, algorithms, and simulated results * Energy and energy-related metrics (e.g., $$$, Energy-Delay, PUE) * IT services and techniques to manage energy and reduce costs * Sustainability and life-cycle analysis * Practical energy technologies for the developing world * Datacenter techniques (e.g., blade servers, low-power CPUs) * Software-based techniques at all levels, from OS/kernel to applications * Evaluation and modification of business processes to reduce the environmental impact * Economics of energy-efficienct software and hardware design * New datacenter cooling and energy-management issues and designs, including use of renewable energy sources * Thermal and computational fluid dynamics (CFD) models for software and hardware co-design Please submit your work by November 9, 2009. More information and submission guidelines are available at http://www.usenix.org/sustainit10/cfpa SustainIT '10 will take place February 22, 2010, in San Jose, CA. It will be co-located with the 8th USENIX Conference on File and Storage Technologies (FAST '10), which will take place February 23-26, 2010. We look forward to receiving your submissions! Sincerely, Ethan L. Miller, University of California, Santa Cruz Erez Zadok, Stony Brook University SustainIT '10 Program Co-Chairs sustainit10chairs(a)usenix.org

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Fwd: UG News: O'Reilly Radar Global Issues Webcast Series
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

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Giant Computer Garage Sale (some Free!!)
by Shawn Wallbridge 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

As many of you know, I have quite the collection of computers (Sun, SGI, Alpha's, PC's), but now that I have moved to sunny California, I cant keep all of them. So, I need to sell off/give away most of them. If you want to see what I have, please give me a call (323 420-5817), or feel free to stop by this weekend from 9am till 6pm (425-70 Arthur St, but you will need to call so I can let you in). Feel free to forward this to anyone you think might be interested. thanks shawn

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Fwd: USENIX HotPar '10 Call For Papers Now Available
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 13 Aug '09

13 Aug '09

FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: USENIX HotPar '10 Call For Papers Now Available Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:48:18 -0700 From: Lionel Garth Jones <lgj(a)usenix.org> The Program Committee for the 2nd USENIX Workshop on Hot Topics in Parallelism (HotPar '10) invites you to submit position papers. HotPar '10 will bring together researchers and practitioners doing innovative work in the area of parallel computing. HotPar recognizes the broad impact of multicore computing and seeks relevant contributions in all fields, including application design, languages and compilers, systems, and architecture. We request submissions of position papers that propose new directions for research of products in these areas, advocate non-traditional approaches to the problems engendered by parallelism, or potentially generate controversy and discussion. Submissions are due January 24, 2010. More information and submission guidelines are available at http://www.usenix.org/hotpar10/cfpa We look forward to receiving your submissions! Sincerely, Geoff Lowney, Intel David Patterson, University of California, Berkeley HotPar '10 Program Co-Chairs hotpar10chairs(a)usenix.org

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Fwd: User Group News: Help O'Reilly by Answering this Survey
by Gilbert E. Detillieux 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

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