Roundtable April 2006

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13 discussions

fuse
by Bill Reid 10 May '06

10 May '06

I just tried out sshfs and it works great. yum install fuse-sshfs is all that is required to get it going on FC5. Thanks Scott for an excellent presentation and making me aware of Fuse and sshfs. -- Bill

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Re: [RndTbl] TTY1 and Starting X Windows
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

According to Montana Quiring: > Good information. Thanks. > > If I put this line in /etc/inittab: > x:2:respawn:/usr/X11R6/bin/startx > tty1 > or > x:2:respawn:/usr/X11R6/bin/startx > > I get this error after it boots up: > /usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line xxx: xinit: command not found > /usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line xxx: xauth: command not found > (xxx being a number in the 100's) > > This led me to look at the startx script and I figured out that xauth … [View More]

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Re: [RndTbl] TTY1 and Starting X Windows
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

According to Montana Quiring: > Thanks for all the info Gilbert. You put me on the right path. > I found that if I put: > startx; kill -9 $$ > in the ~/.bash_profile > It goes to a login prompt instead of a BASH prompt after the user presses > Control+C, so that's a temp workaround. There's a possible race condition there, I think, so it's perhaps not the safest way to do it. Using "exec startx" might be better, since startx would then replace the login shell, so there's no … [View More]

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Re: [RndTbl] xinit doesn't notice my .xinitrc via xdm
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

According to Sean Cody: > First of all this is under OpenBSD 3.9 but that should be immaterial > to the issue. > > Basically if I run startx from a shell X starts and my .xinitrc is > parsed/executed and all is well. > Since I'm using X more I decided to enable xdm (via echo > "xdm_flags="" > /etc/rc.conf.local; reboot; ) instead of launching > manually from a shell. > Now when I log in through XDM my .xinitrc isn't parsed/executed and I > have to run … [View More]

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Re: [RndTbl] TTY1 and Starting X Windows
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

According to Montana Quiring: > Hello, > > Thanks for your feedback at the last MUUG meeting about the problem I had > with Control+C droping someone to a shell prompt in the forst TTY. > > I had a google group thread here if you want to read/respond there: > http://groups.google.ca/group/ubuntu_lite/browse_thread/thread/11b044eeebe0… If you read this thread to the end, you'll see that the X server is launched from within root's ~/.bash_profile, which would explain why … [View More]you see this problem... > I changed the line in /etc/inittab from: > 1:2345:respawn:/bin/bash -login > /dev/tty1 2>&1 < /dev/tty1 > to: > 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 > > and that solves to problem of getting to a shell but now X Windows doesn't > start. > > I don't fully understand what the orig line is doing and I think that's my > problem. As Bill mentioned, the redirect stuff is what you see at the end of the line. however, the /bin/bash -login is the key part here. The -login option forces bash to treat this as a login shell, and read the .bash_profile for the logged-in user (root in this case, since init runs as root, and nothing has been done to change to a different userid). This strikes me as a roundabout way of doing things, and also (as you've discovered) not very bullet-proof. I'd recommend you change the .bash_profile to not start the X server from there, but rather start it in its own line in /etc/inittab, such as this... x:5:respawn:/usr/X11R6/bin/startx Decide which runlevel(s) is/are appropriate for this system, of course. Also, you may want to just use the command line you've commented out of the .bash_profile, if it's different than the startx above, but you will need to specify the full path name of the command explicitly, I believe. Also note that commands started in inittab aren't automatically bound to a tty (such as a virtual console), so you might need to explicitly do so using redirects (as they did for the bash -login). That's not necessary when you invoke getty, since you specify a tty as a command line argument to it, and it's job is to set up a process group bound to the tty. This likely won't matter in the case of X, but if you want to debug or check output from the X server or clients, then you should redirect it somewhere (a log file if not a virtual console). -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca> Dept. of Computer Science Web: http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~gedetil/ University of Manitoba Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R3T 2N2 Fax: (204)474-7609 [View Less]

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[Fwd: Re: [RndTbl] TTY1 and Starting X Windows]
by Montana Quiring 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

Sorry, I forgot to CC MUUG. -Montana ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: [RndTbl] TTY1 and Starting X Windows From: "Montana Quiring" <montanaq(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, April 18, 2006 3:05 pm To: "Bill Reid" <billreid(a)shaw.ca> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for The reply Bill. I tried changing inittab again and this time around it lets me start X after I log in. I … [View More]

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TTY1 and Starting X Windows
by Montana Quiring 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

Hello, Thanks for your feedback at the last MUUG meeting about the problem I had with Control+C droping someone to a shell prompt in the forst TTY. I had a google group thread here if you want to read/respond there: http://groups.google.ca/group/ubuntu_lite/browse_thread/thread/11b044eeebe0… I changed the line in /etc/inittab from: 1:2345:respawn:/bin/bash -login > /dev/tty1 2>&1 < /dev/tty1 to: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 and that solves to problem of getting to a … [View More]

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TTY1 and Starting X Windows
by Montana Quiring 17 Apr '06

17 Apr '06

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Winnipeg Python Users Group
by Stuart Williams 12 Apr '06

12 Apr '06

At last night's MUUG meeting someone asked me why the Winnipeg Python Users Group meets in the middle of the afternoon. We don't (anymore). Our next meeting is April 26th at 7:30 p.m., usually done by 9:00 or 9:30 p.m. We'll be looking at some novice code, so while not an explicit introduction to Python, it should be approachable to all. For more information see our web site at http://WinniPUG.ca Stuart Williams.

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Norton Ghost / re-install Lilo
by rayhenry＠autoclubs.ca 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

OK, have a RedHat 7 system with a dying HD. So I ran Norton Ghost and copied everything over to a newer drive (same size, just newer). I've been hours on the 'Net and tried a number of different instructions on installign Lilo to the new HD so that it boots when moved from hdb to hda. Nothing seems to work. Sorry, I haven't logged everything I've done, as I (silly me) kept hoping that *this time* something *would* work. But this shutting down every night to re-Ghost the drive to keep it … [View More]

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Roundtable April 2006