non-American hosting/colo/cloud facilities
Further to a discussion last night, OVH.com is a French data center provider who has opened a large datacenter facility in Beauharnais, QC (just outside Montreal). They do not have any American facilities (except peering points). They claim to be OS-agnostic – although they don’t mention OpenBSD specifically, they do mention both FreeBSD and SmartOS. BSDCan2013 attendees got a one-month free trial of a dedicated server. (Impressively-polished video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e97g7_qSxA) Meanwhile, BSWS.DE remains the only non-American OpenBSD-specific hosting provider I’m aware of – please provide more examples if you know of them! (All the Google results appear to have some American connection.) Note: I’m not trying to make a statement about the Patriot Act or doing business in the USA here, I’m just providing additional data to a conversation that was happening. -Adam Thompson athompso@athompso.net <mailto:athompso@athompso.net>
We use vmfarms.com at Wave for managed VPS. There's also http://fiberfortress.com/ here in the city for colo. Sean On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Adam Thompson <athompso@athompso.net>wrote:
Further to a discussion last night, OVH.com is a French data center provider who has opened a large datacenter facility in Beauharnais, QC (just outside Montreal). They do not have any American facilities (except peering points). They claim to be OS-agnostic – although they don’t mention OpenBSD specifically, they do mention both FreeBSD and SmartOS. BSDCan2013 attendees got a one-month free trial of a dedicated server. (Impressively-polished video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e97g7_qSxA) ****
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Meanwhile, BSWS.DE remains the only non-American OpenBSD-specific hosting provider I’m aware of – please provide more examples if you know of them! (All the Google results appear to have some American connection.)****
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On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 01:24:07PM -0500, Adam Thompson wrote:
Note: I'm not trying to make a statement about the Patriot Act or doing business in the USA here, I'm just providing additional data to a conversation that was happening.
Now, with the idea that if we have to put up with spooks, they should at the very least be *our* spooks, I am interested in Linux virtual server hosts in Canada. I have one with prgmr.com now, and they've been great, but diversity is also useful. Thoughts? Cheers, Tim
I have been happily using Canadian Web Hosting / Idigital Internet, located in Vancouver and more recently in Toronto too, for about 4 years now: http://www.canadianwebhosting.com/ They have a variety of Linux and Windows server offerings (virtual and dedicated). For virtualization, they use and/or have used Virtuozzo Containairs, Citrix Xen, and VMware. If a control panel is needed, they offer WHM/cPanel (yech!) and Parallels Plesk. Hmmm, would control panels ever be a valid topic for presentation at MUUG? I might be able to do the WHM/cPanel and Parallels Plesk parts of such a presentation. Hartmut Sager On 12 June 2013 13:33, <tim@fractaldragon.net> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 01:24:07PM -0500, Adam Thompson wrote:
Note: I'm not trying to make a statement about the Patriot Act or doing business in the USA here, I'm just providing additional data to a conversation that was happening.
Now, with the idea that if we have to put up with spooks, they should at the very least be *our* spooks, I am interested in Linux virtual server hosts in Canada.
I have one with prgmr.com now, and they've been great, but diversity is also useful. Thoughts?
Cheers, Tim _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
Oops, I forgot something: I don't know how free of American infrastructure Canadian Web Hosting is. They recently tried to give me a 5-pack (requested by me) of extra IPv4 addresses which turned out to be U.S.-located, and I got them to swap these for a 5-pack of Canadian-located addresses. Hartmut Sager On 12 June 2013 22:54, Hartmut W Sager <hwsager@marityme.net> wrote:
I have been happily using Canadian Web Hosting / Idigital Internet, located in Vancouver and more recently in Toronto too, for about 4 years now:
http://www.canadianwebhosting.com/
They have a variety of Linux and Windows server offerings (virtual and dedicated). For virtualization, they use and/or have used Virtuozzo Containairs, Citrix Xen, and VMware. If a control panel is needed, they offer WHM/cPanel (yech!) and Parallels Plesk.
Hmmm, would control panels ever be a valid topic for presentation at MUUG? I might be able to do the WHM/cPanel and Parallels Plesk parts of such a presentation.
Hartmut Sager
On 12 June 2013 13:33, <tim@fractaldragon.net> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 01:24:07PM -0500, Adam Thompson wrote:
Note: I'm not trying to make a statement about the Patriot Act or doing business in the USA here, I'm just providing additional data to a conversation that was happening.
Now, with the idea that if we have to put up with spooks, they should at the very least be *our* spooks, I am interested in Linux virtual server hosts in Canada.
I have one with prgmr.com now, and they've been great, but diversity is also useful. Thoughts?
Cheers, Tim _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
On June 12, 2013 11:00:13 PM Hartmut W Sager wrote: Oops, I forgot something: I don't know how free of American infrastructure Canadian Web Hosting is. Their FAQ http://www.canadianwebhosting.com/support/canadianstackhosting/ says "Canadian Web Hosting is a 100% Canadian web hosting provider ... and all customer data never leaves Canada." So, the NSA won't even need a warrant to snoop on you; you're a certified foreigner!
Not sure of the discussion, but I can guess it's general scope ;) I have used iWeb for quite a while, and they are pretty good. Based in Montreal, they used to support FreeBSD, but alas stopped supporting it a few weeks ago. If you check their Warehouse Clearance section, you can get a pretty good deal on a dedicated machine (mine is a dual-core AMD with 8GB of ram for $69/month). shawn On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:24 AM, "Adam Thompson" <athompso@athompso.net> wrote:
Further to a discussion last night, OVH.com is a French data center provider who has opened a large datacenter facility in Beauharnais, QC (just outside Montreal). They do not have any American facilities (except peering points). They claim to be OS-agnostic – although they don’t mention OpenBSD specifically, they do mention both FreeBSD and SmartOS. BSDCan2013 attendees got a one-month free trial of a dedicated server. (Impressively-polished video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e97g7_qSxA)
Meanwhile, BSWS.DE remains the only non-American OpenBSD-specific hosting provider I’m aware of – please provide more examples if you know of them! (All the Google results appear to have some American connection.)
Note: I’m not trying to make a statement about the Patriot Act or doing business in the USA here, I’m just providing additional data to a conversation that was happening.
-Adam Thompson athompso@athompso.net
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