[RndTbl] Shaw email - new woes

Adam Thompson athompso at athompso.net
Sat Apr 25 14:17:22 CDT 2015


Or set up your own mail relay with a cloud provider, and funnel everything through there over IPsec or even just a private port #.  This can be done for as little as US$2.99/month.
-Adam

On April 25, 2015 12:51:54 PM CDT, Hartmut W Sager <hwsager at marityme.net> wrote:
>I have a simple solution - don't be dependent on the whims of your ISP
>for
>mail servers.  I'm using Tucows/OpenSRS for my globally accessible
>(authenticated) SMTP server, which also means I won't be rejected for
>"relaying" if I connect my laptop to the Internet at some other
>premises
>than my own.
>
>Also, for good measure, I am using this same SMTP server at Gmail,
>where
>(policy change in Sep 2014) any newly created "from" address requires
>you
>to supply your own SMTP server (a BYOS policy - "bring your own
>server").
>
>For a Tucows/OpenSRS reseller, that SMTP server costs $0.50 per month -
>a
>negligible cost.
>
>Regarding MTS, I believe they recently switched from MS
>Live/Hotmail/Outlook to something else for their mail service offering
>(@
>mymts.net).
>
>Hartmut W Sager - Tel +1-204-339-8331
>
>
>On 25 April 2015 at 01:31, Trevor Cordes <trevor at tecnopolis.ca> wrote:
>
>> Great, Shaw is playing with email things again :-(
>>
>> All of a sudden all emails from my box (on a shaw cable modem)
>outgoing
>> (via Shaw's recommended smarthost) were being blocked by Shaw.  They
>> blocked me from 1am to 4:30pm.
>>
>> I've been using this setup for 10+ years and never had a problem. 
>They
>> must have switched to a new email outsource service or something.
>>
>> Even funnier, what triggered it seems to be this: I'm trying to help
>my
>> customer with Spam problems and the RT ticket he made (and hence
>email
>> subject) had the word "Spam" and Shaw barfed it back and started the
>> blocking without warning:
>>
>> =========================
>> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 01:07:55 -0500
>> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON at tecnopolis.ca>
>> Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
>>
>> The original message was received at Fri, 24 Apr 2015 01:07:54 -0500
>> from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
>>
>>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>> <customer at mycustomer.com>
>>     (reason: 552 5.2.0 lWmIYQYgD7S0qlWmJYSEv0 spam rejected)
>>
>>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>> ... while talking to shawmail.wp.shawcable.net:
>> >>> DATA
>> <<< 552 5.2.0 lWmIYQYgD7S0qlWmJYSEv0 spam rejected
>> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
>>
>> [...]
>> Subject: [Tecnopolis #2173] Spam Possible
>> =========================
>>
>> Hahaha.  Pathetic.  So any email that wants to talk about spam and
>has
>> that word in the subject is blocked?  What if I want to talk about
>> viagra or rolex, is that blocked too?
>>
>> All subsequent emails for the whole day got a bounce:
>>
>> =========================
>> The original message was received at Fri, 24 Apr 2015 02:54:59 -0500
>> from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
>>
>>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>> <customer at mycustomer.com>
>>     (reason: 554 mo23.dcs.int.inet shaw.ca ESMTP server not
>available)
>>
>>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>> ... while talking to shawmail.wp.shawcable.net:
>> <<< 554 mo23.dcs.int.inet shaw.ca ESMTP server not available
>> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
>> =========================
>>
>> WTF is mo23.dcs.int.inet?  Looks new to me.
>>
>> Anyhow, after a call to a clueless tech rep telling me I'm
>unsupported
>> because I run sendmail *simply as an outgoing mail MTA pointing
>directly
>> to their smart host* and an email to their (hopefully) more advanced
>> techs, I got nowhere until it magically fixed itself at 4:30.  I
>probably
>> hit their BL timeout or something.
>>
>> I dare anyone on the Shaw network using normal SMTP outgoing to send
>an
>> email with the subject of "sp*m" (I dare not spell it out in full, he
>who
>> can't be named and all that).  Let me know if they block you for a
>day and
>> whether you get anywhere with tech support.
>>
>> Shame on Shaw.  Almost getting as bad as MTS.  Wait a minute, no one
>can
>> get *that* bad (MS Live mail anyone?). :-)
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