[RndTbl] Really old MTS Internet drop?

[Kevin McGregor]

Yeah, I worked with Thinnet in the early days. I'm planning to drop by this
evening to take a look myself. I'll post a picture of what I find. :-)


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Sean Walberg <sean at ertw.com> wrote:

> Here's a pic of the first DSL modem they rolled out to customers.
>
> http://24.77.241.77/~sean/escape/adsl.jpg
>
> I'm pretty sure it was RJ-45. In either case, if the cable plugs directly
> into the card it's probably cable, if there's a T it's Ethernet.
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Gilbert E. Detillieux <
> gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 05/02/2014 10:59 AM, Hartmut W Sager wrote:
>>
>>> I do consider it quite possible that this is simply a 10Base-2 NIC, and
>>> that MTS supplied such NIC's at one time (to match some ancient DSL
>>> modem), even though I don't distinctly remember this from my MTS past.
>>>
>>
>> While I'd have no trouble believing MTS supplied 10-Base-2/T combo cards
>> in the early days, I'd have trouble believing their early DSL modems
>> actually used coax only.  But that could be the case.  (I'd say you'd have
>> to go back quite a bit more than a decade, though.)
>>
>>
>>  A hub isn't needed - 10Base-2 has all the stations (computers, etc.)
>>> along a linear cable with T-connectors at each of them, even the two end
>>> units, and a terminating resistor on the otherwise open-ended
>>> T-connector at each of the two ends.
>>>
>>> Man, I hated wiring the connectors onto those 10Base-2 cables!  Anyone
>>> out there old enough to have handled the even older 10Base-5 stuff?  You
>>> gotta love RJ-45!
>>>
>>
>> Ah, memories!...  In my first few years in my current jobs (almost 25
>> years ago now), I did work with some (inherited) 10Base-5 nodes, with the
>> old external transceivers and stinger taps.  I don't remember having to
>> actually install one myself, however.
>>
>> We did run 10Base-2 thin coax for a number of years, and I did install a
>> number of external transceivers on that, as well as BNC T connectors for
>> interfaces with internal transceivers.  This would include running a
>> temporary bypass cable (which we affectionately called the "hyper-space
>> bypass") between two points, so that we could splice into a section of
>> previously "live" cable to install new connectors for new drops.  We got
>> comfortable enough with doing this that we could add new drops on a wire
>> without anyone on that segment even noticing an outage (except for maybe in
>> the room where we were working, which was being bypassed).
>>
>> Fun stuff...  I don't miss it at all, though.  :)
>>
>> Gilbert
>>
>>  On 5 February 2014 09:50, Colin Stanners <cstanners at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cstanners at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Likely: PC TV-capture card, or they're really confusing an ethernet
>>>     cable.
>>>     Very unlikely: ancient 10base-2 NIC to a hub somewhere with their
>>>     DSL modem.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Kevin McGregor
>>>     <kevin.a.mcgregor at gmail.com <mailto:kevin.a.mcgregor at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Friends of my parents have had MTS Internet service for a decade
>>>         or more (probably more).
>>>
>>>         They told me that they have a coax cable in the room with their
>>>         computer (an IBM Pentium 4 3.0 GHz, to give you an idea of the
>>>         age of this setup; they had MTS Internet service before that in
>>>         an older computer) AND that this coax cable plugs directly into
>>>         their PC.Has anyone seen this sort of setup? I didn't look at it
>>>         myself; this is just what I got from them over the phone just
>>> now.
>>>
>>>         Are they mistaken, or did MTS in the past provide a PC card with
>>>         a coax connector for Internet access? It's possible that they
>>>         didn't recognize an Ethernet cable, but I did explicitly ask if
>>>         it was connected to the computer with a screw-on type connector
>>>         which they confirmed it was.
>>>
>>>         Kevin
>>>
>>
>>
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