[*] yes! yes! yes!

[DAN KEIZER]

... and then google used the open standard ... and it was good ...

http://www.google.com/talk/developer.html#service

... and they say they'll do sip .. one day ...

I recall the debates raging between xmpp and sip as the default signalling protocols and sip winning .. because of the large installed base of telco's and their way of thinking ...

Dan.

(i originally posted this from a non-subscribed email account .. sorry for any duplicates)