We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool. Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about? That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from? Let us know and we'll add it to the pool. -- Sean P.S. While we would really like members to present RTFM, just giving us an idea of the things you want to learn about will help a lot.
On 10-09-27 10:28 AM, Sean Cody wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
If anyone wants, I can talk about a trio of commands. "cd", "pushd", and "popd". I can also give the standard lecture of how directories are created/removed/arranged. At a later date I can give a short demo of a cross-platform game called Warzone 2100. I can even demo a GameBoy emulator (I used to run a game oriented BBS with a friend and I guess it's still an area I pay a little attention to). An admitted departure from the system admin oriented presentations, but a break every now and then couldn't hurt. ;-) Later Mike
Hi, all. The other day I was trying to execute a command on all subdirectories (recursively) and files, even though these files and directories contained non-alphanumeric characters and space. I found my answer on StackOverflow eventually, but there were a lot of different approaches to it, some utilizing commands like "awk", "gawk" (which I'm told is just a GNU version), but in my 13 years on Linux, I've never found the serenity to learn all those crazy text processing commands. So perhaps, if someone is well versed in text/file/directory processing, a short lecture on the most powerful commands might be useful. Just an idea. :) Kind regards, Helgi Hrafn Gunnarsson helgi@binary.s On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Sean Cody <sean@tinfoilhat.ca> wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
-- Sean P.S. While we would really like members to present RTFM, just giving us an idea of the things you want to learn about will help a lot.
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"cat", or at least the top 10 times it's unnecessary :) Sean On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Sean Cody <sean@tinfoilhat.ca> wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
-- Sean P.S. While we would really like members to present RTFM, just giving us an idea of the things you want to learn about will help a lot.
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-- Sean Walberg <sean@ertw.com> http://ertw.com/
On 2010-09-27, at 12:42 PM, Helgi Hrafn Gunnarsson wrote:
Hi, all.
The other day I was trying to execute a command on all subdirectories (recursively) and files, even though these files and directories contained non-alphanumeric characters and space. I found my answer on StackOverflow eventually, but there were a lot of different approaches to it, some utilizing commands like "awk", "gawk" (which I'm told is just a GNU version), but in my 13 years on Linux, I've never found the serenity to learn all those crazy text processing commands.
So perhaps, if someone is well versed in text/file/directory processing, a short lecture on the most powerful commands might be useful. Just an idea. :)
A quick response and test of a newly configured mail program... When dealing with filenames with "evil characters" you can always enclose the filename in single quotes ("'"). I use this when dealing with video files someone created under M$.
Kind regards, Helgi Hrafn Gunnarsson helgi@binary.s
Later Mike
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Sean Cody <sean@tinfoilhat.ca> wrote: We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
-- Sean P.S. While we would really like members to present RTFM, just giving us an idea of the things you want to learn about will help a lot.
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Mike's Warzone 2100 demo offer gave me an idea... Has there ever been a MUUG game night? Perhaps we could vote on 1 or 2 favorite open source games & use one of the meetings (Xmas Party) as a LAN party? We could do the round-table first & then LAN party for any who wanted to stay. Just an idea. Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Mike Pfaiffer <high.res.mike@gmail.com> Sender: roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:36:15 To: Continuation of Round Table discussion<roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Reply-To: Continuation of Round Table discussion <roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] RTFM brainstorm. On 10-09-27 10:28 AM, Sean Cody wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
If anyone wants, I can talk about a trio of commands. "cd", "pushd", and "popd". I can also give the standard lecture of how directories are created/removed/arranged. At a later date I can give a short demo of a cross-platform game called Warzone 2100. I can even demo a GameBoy emulator (I used to run a game oriented BBS with a friend and I guess it's still an area I pay a little attention to). An admitted departure from the system admin oriented presentations, but a break every now and then couldn't hurt. ;-) Later Mike _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
I've missed some meetings, so I don't know if we covered rsync - I certainly wouldn't mind knowing a bit more about that. I would also be interested in repository / versionning commands, like CVS, subversion, or Git. -Dan Martin On 2010-09-27, at 10:28 AM, Sean Cody wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
-- Sean P.S. While we would really like members to present RTFM, just giving us an idea of the things you want to learn about will help a lot.
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Dan Martin GP Hospital Practitioner Computer Scientist ummar143@shaw.ca (204) 831-1746 answering machine always on
On 10-09-27 07:03 PM, Dan Martin wrote:
I've missed some meetings, so I don't know if we covered rsync - I certainly wouldn't mind knowing a bit more about that.
I would also be interested in repository / versionning commands, like CVS, subversion, or Git.
I don't think we covered rsync directly. I used it a total of three times. It seems there is a little problem with the Mac version (especially with 10.4). If is is covered I'd like to suggest the presenter let us know how to update to the latest version with the Mac. Speaking of Mac stuff (this ought to interest you and Lindsay)... Since it came up in an earlier conversation, it might be useful to have a presentation on MacPorts, Fink, etc.. I've used it a couple of times successfully and once unsuccessfully. No doubt there are some features/tweaks we don't know about. ;-)
-Dan Martin
Later Mike
On 2010-09-27, at 10:28 AM, Sean Cody wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
-- Sean P.S. While we would really like members to present RTFM, just giving us an idea of the things you want to learn about will help a lot.
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Dan Martin GP Hospital Practitioner Computer Scientist ummar143@shaw.ca (204) 831-1746 answering machine always on
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On 09/27/2010 07:26 PM, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
Speaking of Mac stuff (this ought to interest you and Lindsay)... Since it came up in an earlier conversation, it might be useful to have a presentation on MacPorts, Fink, etc.. I've used it a couple of times successfully and once unsuccessfully. No doubt there are some features/tweaks we don't know about. ;-)
I could do something on this (I was one of the project leads for the Fink project for a few years and have a fair knowledge of MacPorts). Alternatively, I could do something quick on the autotools (also known as autocrap), if there is interest in that. Peter
On 2010-09-27, at 9:17 PM, Peter O'Gorman wrote:
On 09/27/2010 07:26 PM, Mike Pfaiffer wrote:
Speaking of Mac stuff (this ought to interest you and Lindsay)... Since it came up in an earlier conversation, it might be useful to have a presentation on MacPorts, Fink, etc.. I've used it a couple of times successfully and once unsuccessfully. No doubt there are some features/tweaks we don't know about. ;-)
I could do something on this (I was one of the project leads for the Fink project for a few years and have a fair knowledge of MacPorts).
Alternatively, I could do something quick on the autotools (also known as autocrap), if there is interest in that.
Cool! Any possibility you could do both?
Peter _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
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I like the idea, and I'd definitely attend and participate! I'm not sure how much fun it would be for some of the fuddy-duddies in the group, though. ;-) Mind you, if the game(s) have an "observer" mode (BZflag is one that has this), we could throw that on the projector and make it more of a show. Kevin On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Kelly Leveille <kel@kelweb.ca> wrote:
Mike's Warzone 2100 demo offer gave me an idea...
Has there ever been a MUUG game night? Perhaps we could vote on 1 or 2 favorite open source games & use one of the meetings (Xmas Party) as a LAN party? We could do the round-table first & then LAN party for any who wanted to stay.
Just an idea.
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Pfaiffer <high.res.mike@gmail.com> Sender: roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:36:15 To: Continuation of Round Table discussion<roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Reply-To: Continuation of Round Table discussion <roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] RTFM brainstorm.
On 10-09-27 10:28 AM, Sean Cody wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
If anyone wants, I can talk about a trio of commands. "cd", "pushd", and "popd". I can also give the standard lecture of how directories are created/removed/arranged.
At a later date I can give a short demo of a cross-platform game called Warzone 2100. I can even demo a GameBoy emulator (I used to run a game oriented BBS with a friend and I guess it's still an area I pay a little attention to). An admitted departure from the system admin oriented presentations, but a break every now and then couldn't hurt. ;-)
Later Mike _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
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On 10-09-28 08:42 AM, Kevin McGregor wrote:
I like the idea, and I'd definitely attend and participate! I'm not sure how much fun it would be for some of the fuddy-duddies in the group, though. ;-) Mind you, if the game(s) have an "observer" mode (BZflag is one that has this), we could throw that on the projector and make it more of a show.
If someone knows of a game in addition to BZflag with an observer mode maybe we could make a list. This brings up an interesting point... Will IBM let us use their network if a lot of people bring in their machines and start playing games? It occurs to me we could also have an educational component to the "game night". The first item is how to set up multi-player games directly in Linux/Mac/BSD/whatever. The second could be how to do the same with virtual machines. Going from the specific to the general, one could extend these techniques to a more generic connection of networking software.
Kevin
Later Mike
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Kelly Leveille<kel@kelweb.ca> wrote:
Mike's Warzone 2100 demo offer gave me an idea...
Has there ever been a MUUG game night? Perhaps we could vote on 1 or 2 favorite open source games& use one of the meetings (Xmas Party) as a LAN party? We could do the round-table first& then LAN party for any who wanted to stay.
Just an idea.
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Pfaiffer<high.res.mike@gmail.com> Sender: roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:36:15 To: Continuation of Round Table discussion<roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Reply-To: Continuation of Round Table discussion<roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] RTFM brainstorm.
On 10-09-27 10:28 AM, Sean Cody wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
If anyone wants, I can talk about a trio of commands. "cd", "pushd", and "popd". I can also give the standard lecture of how directories are created/removed/arranged.
At a later date I can give a short demo of a cross-platform game called Warzone 2100. I can even demo a GameBoy emulator (I used to run a game oriented BBS with a friend and I guess it's still an area I pay a little attention to). An admitted departure from the system admin oriented presentations, but a break every now and then couldn't hurt. ;-)
Later Mike _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
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Going from the general to the specific, I'd say - the game(s) would be decided and announced in advance - each participant is responsible for bringing their own suitable hardware - each participant is responsible for pre-installing the selected game and performing any other set up required before the meeting starts - I could bring my old-school 16-port 10 Mb/s hub (!), and we wouldn't use IBM's network AT ALL - in the case of BZflag, there is a server portion which can run on a suitably-configured Linux/BSD box (virtual or not) which could lead to some non-game-related discussion On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Mike Pfaiffer <high.res.mike@gmail.com>wrote:
On 10-09-28 08:42 AM, Kevin McGregor wrote:
I like the idea, and I'd definitely attend and participate! I'm not sure how much fun it would be for some of the fuddy-duddies in the group, though. ;-) Mind you, if the game(s) have an "observer" mode (BZflag is one that has this), we could throw that on the projector and make it more of a show.
If someone knows of a game in addition to BZflag with an observer mode maybe we could make a list. This brings up an interesting point... Will IBM let us use their network if a lot of people bring in their machines and start playing games?
It occurs to me we could also have an educational component to the "game night". The first item is how to set up multi-player games directly in Linux/Mac/BSD/whatever. The second could be how to do the same with virtual machines. Going from the specific to the general, one could extend these techniques to a more generic connection of networking software.
Kevin
Later Mike
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Kelly Leveille<kel@kelweb.ca> wrote:
Mike's Warzone 2100 demo offer gave me an idea...
Has there ever been a MUUG game night? Perhaps we could vote on 1 or 2 favorite open source games& use one of the meetings (Xmas Party) as a
LAN
party? We could do the round-table first& then LAN party for any who wanted to stay.
Just an idea.
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Pfaiffer<high.res.mike@gmail.com> Sender: roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:36:15 To: Continuation of Round Table discussion<roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Reply-To: Continuation of Round Table discussion<roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] RTFM brainstorm.
On 10-09-27 10:28 AM, Sean Cody wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
If anyone wants, I can talk about a trio of commands. "cd", "pushd", and "popd". I can also give the standard lecture of how directories are created/removed/arranged.
At a later date I can give a short demo of a cross-platform game called Warzone 2100. I can even demo a GameBoy emulator (I used to run a game oriented BBS with a friend and I guess it's still an area I pay a little attention to). An admitted departure from the system admin oriented presentations, but a break every now and then couldn't hurt. ;-)
Later Mike _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
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On 10-09-28 01:53 PM, Kevin McGregor wrote:
Going from the general to the specific, I'd say - the game(s) would be decided and announced in advance - each participant is responsible for bringing their own suitable hardware - each participant is responsible for pre-installing the selected game and performing any other set up required before the meeting starts - I could bring my old-school 16-port 10 Mb/s hub (!), and we wouldn't use IBM's network AT ALL - in the case of BZflag, there is a server portion which can run on a suitably-configured Linux/BSD box (virtual or not) which could lead to some non-game-related discussion
We may need a router. I'm 95% certain we could bring one. Later Mike
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Mike Pfaiffer<high.res.mike@gmail.com>wrote:
On 10-09-28 08:42 AM, Kevin McGregor wrote:
I like the idea, and I'd definitely attend and participate! I'm not sure how much fun it would be for some of the fuddy-duddies in the group, though. ;-) Mind you, if the game(s) have an "observer" mode (BZflag is one that has this), we could throw that on the projector and make it more of a show.
If someone knows of a game in addition to BZflag with an observer mode maybe we could make a list. This brings up an interesting point... Will IBM let us use their network if a lot of people bring in their machines and start playing games?
It occurs to me we could also have an educational component to the "game night". The first item is how to set up multi-player games directly in Linux/Mac/BSD/whatever. The second could be how to do the same with virtual machines. Going from the specific to the general, one could extend these techniques to a more generic connection of networking software.
Kevin
Later Mike
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Kelly Leveille<kel@kelweb.ca> wrote:
Mike's Warzone 2100 demo offer gave me an idea...
Has there ever been a MUUG game night? Perhaps we could vote on 1 or 2 favorite open source games& use one of the meetings (Xmas Party) as a
LAN
party? We could do the round-table first& then LAN party for any who wanted to stay.
Just an idea.
Kelly
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Pfaiffer<high.res.mike@gmail.com> Sender: roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:36:15 To: Continuation of Round Table discussion<roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Reply-To: Continuation of Round Table discussion<roundtable@muug.mb.ca> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] RTFM brainstorm.
On 10-09-27 10:28 AM, Sean Cody wrote:
We are quickly powering through our current RTFM pool.
Since the point of the exercise is to educate the group it seems only reasonable to find out what commands/systems the group would like to hear about?
That being said, is there any command/system you were always curious about but haven't found time to investigate? What about a command you are using but you are unsure if you are getting the full potential out of it? Any particular command you enjoy using that you think other people could benefit from?
Let us know and we'll add it to the pool.
If anyone wants, I can talk about a trio of commands. "cd", "pushd", and "popd". I can also give the standard lecture of how directories are created/removed/arranged.
At a later date I can give a short demo of a cross-platform game called Warzone 2100. I can even demo a GameBoy emulator (I used to run a game oriented BBS with a friend and I guess it's still an area I pay a little attention to). An admitted departure from the system admin oriented presentations, but a break every now and then couldn't hurt. ;-)
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Dan Martin -
Helgi Hrafn Gunnarsson -
Kelly Leveille -
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Mike Pfaiffer -
Peter O'Gorman -
Sean Cody -
Sean Walberg