Shaw keeps incrementally increasing my grandfathered service. It was $65 in early 2017. I just use internet and I'm now paying $75 for Internet 15 which is 15 down and something like 2 or 3 up. Providers are mentioned in our discussions. Can I get your recommendations please?
On July 6, 2018 4:26:25 PM CDT, Frank H <alteahandle-muug@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Shaw keeps incrementally increasing my grandfathered service. It was $65 in early 2017. I just use internet and I'm now paying $75 for Internet 15 which is 15 down and something like 2 or 3 up. Providers are mentioned in our discussions. Can I get your recommendations please?
Yeah, that's a little bit high - are you including taxes and fees? Unfortunately, like cell plans, internet keeps getting more expensive. Your options are now MTS, Shaw, or Teksavvy. There are a few other resellers that I'm reluctant to mention here because I don't know how they can legally do what they do. I'll let others who know more comment on then. For residential however, you're still not going to have very many options, and I'd be shocked if you can get ANY service for under $50/month now. -Adam -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
There are a few other resellers that I'm reluctant to mention here because I don't know how they can legally do what they do. I'll let others who know more comment on then.
Some of the the big guys call it a "regulatory taking", they are forced as a matter of regulation to rent out their "last mile" to resellers. The "last mile" rental only gets traffic from your home to their office. The resellers use their own upstream from there. I'm quoting "last mile" as I heard that for people serviced by Shaw in Winnipeg you have to set up a point of presence in Calgary. Apparently the resellers now have to register which is step beyond just paying a tariff to the big telecoms. https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2017/2017-450.pdf One benefit of this is that there is a search available for them: On this site, if you search for Winnipeg: https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/comm/fourprov.htm There are 29 results including Shaw and MTS Not sure how many of those results are resellers of VDSL, ADSL and cable vs people doing microwave or building out their own fiber. Someone care to go through and count? CBC did an interesting story on why people are reluctant to switch despite cheaper prices: https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/canadians-pay-big-fees-for-internet-so-w...
On July 6, 2018 10:20:18 PM CDT, Mark Jenkins <mark@parit.ca> wrote:
There are a few other resellers that I'm reluctant to mention here because I don't know how they can legally do what they do. I'll let others who know more comment on then.
Some of the the big guys call it a "regulatory taking", they are forced as a matter of regulation to rent out their "last mile" to resellers.
The "last mile" rental only gets traffic from your home to their office. The resellers use their own upstream from there.
I'm quoting "last mile" as I heard that for people serviced by Shaw in Winnipeg you have to set up a point of presence in Calgary.
Apparently the resellers now have to register which is step beyond just paying a tariff to the big telecoms. https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2017/2017-450.pdf
One benefit of this is that there is a search available for them: On this site, if you search for Winnipeg: https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/comm/fourprov.htm There are 29 results including Shaw and MTS
Not sure how many of those results are resellers of VDSL, ADSL and cable vs people doing microwave or building out their own fiber. Someone care to go through and count?
CBC did an interesting story on why people are reluctant to switch despite cheaper prices: https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/canadians-pay-big-fees-for-internet-so-w... _______________________________________________ Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.ca https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
Wow, I've never even heard of some of these. I have heard of Commstream, although I don't know much about ten technically. It's the ones that prey on the "No credit? No problem!" market thatc worry me. -Adam -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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