Interesting! I am primarily a Shaw Internet user, with MTS Internet as backup, and I don't experience any large variations at Shaw around the clock (and I'm on at all hours of day and night, unpredictably).
My Shaw plan is 25 Mbps down / 2.5 Mbps up, and I usually clock about 24 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. Moments ago I tested it, and got 17 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. So, aside from any problem you may have had in your local computer and networking, Shaw does have high capacity for handling peak loads in at least some (many/most?) areas of Winnipeg - I'm around Watt & Munroe, but had similar stats around Henderson & McLeod in early 2011 before I moved. (For the record, my ping/latency to the Rainy Day server is typically 0-11 ms.)
My Vonage VoIP is flawless here, just as good as Shaw phone, but interestingly, my Vonage VoIP is virtually perfect even on my MTS Internet, which is typically 5-6 Mbps down / 0.34 Mbps up / ping 57 ms. Both my Shaw and my MTS have very little jitter or packet losses (important parameters for VoIP in addition to up/down/latency).
Hmmm, maybe we should morph this into a VoIP discussion. How many of you fellow MUUG members are using serious VoIP, and what are your results? I have extensive Vonage and Skype experience, Vonage being dead-serious VoIP and Skype less so, but itself superb in its Skype-to-Skype primary form (SkypeIn and SkypeOut are much weaker). OK, have I started the ball rolling?
Hartmut Sager (a pretty quiet member, typically just reading our RoundTable)
On 2 January 2013 20:46, Bradford C. Vokey brad@fsi.ca wrote:
Speeds went back to 45 Mbps at 2:30am. Worked great all morning until prime time hit again, now this evening it's back to 2 Mbps. I got Shaw to credit my bill and they gave me a free VOD pretty easily. I think they know there is a 'problem' on my node.
Don't you LOVE all us Netflix users?
On 1/2/2013 8:12 PM, Trevor Cordes wrote:
On 2013-01-02 Bradford Vokey wrote:
Shaw techs are not available to come to my house until Sunday January 6th!My download speeds are around 1.5 Mbps.
Try a different cable. Blow out the ends for dust.
Power cycle the modem.
Power cycle the computer.
Do you have a different NIC to try for eth0? I'll probably have to help you change it without Fedora screwing up the other 2 NIC's numbering.
I'd try all that before getting the Shaw guy out.
And since when is 1.5Mbps dial-up? :-) How quickly you forget the 33.6kbps modem days...
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There are several people here who use VoIP extensively. Most small VoIP users in Winnipeg – as far as I know – use Les’ service ( http://www.les.net www.les.net). Larger business customers (~20+ trunks) have a bit more flexibility, with Shaw, MTS and Bell all offering services, too.
If you’re interested in VoIP, you should come to the Asterisk SIG meetings (and join the mailing list at http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/asterisk http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/asterisk) despite the fact that they often turn into networking (IP, not human) confabs.
In middle-aged-St. Vital (well, it’s not quite Old St. Vital, so what else should I call it?) just north of Bishop Grandin Blvd. & St. Mary’s Rd., I notice that my Shaw performance is highly variable; Shaw has confirmed that my local “node” is somewhat overloaded, and it’s on the upgrade list, but no ETA.
-Adam Thompson
athompso@athompso.net
From: roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca [mailto:roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca] On Behalf Of Hartmut W Sager Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:59 PM To: Continuation of Round Table discussion Subject: Re: [RndTbl] My Shaw Broadband 50 turned into Dial-up; morph into VoIP discussion
Interesting! I am primarily a Shaw Internet user, with MTS Internet as backup, and I don't experience any large variations at Shaw around the clock (and I'm on at all hours of day and night, unpredictably).
My Shaw plan is 25 Mbps down / 2.5 Mbps up, and I usually clock about 24 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. Moments ago I tested it, and got 17 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. So, aside from any problem you may have had in your local computer and networking, Shaw does have high capacity for handling peak loads in at least some (many/most?) areas of Winnipeg - I'm around Watt & Munroe, but had similar stats around Henderson & McLeod in early 2011 before I moved. (For the record, my ping/latency to the Rainy Day server is typically 0-11 ms.)
My Vonage VoIP is flawless here, just as good as Shaw phone, but interestingly, my Vonage VoIP is virtually perfect even on my MTS Internet, which is typically 5-6 Mbps down / 0.34 Mbps up / ping 57 ms. Both my Shaw and my MTS have very little jitter or packet losses (important parameters for VoIP in addition to up/down/latency).
Hmmm, maybe we should morph this into a VoIP discussion. How many of you fellow MUUG members are using serious VoIP, and what are your results? I have extensive Vonage and Skype experience, Vonage being dead-serious VoIP and Skype less so, but itself superb in its Skype-to-Skype primary form (SkypeIn and SkypeOut are much weaker). OK, have I started the ball rolling?
Hartmut Sager (a pretty quiet member, typically just reading our RoundTable)
Thanks for the tip-off on the Asterisk SIG, which I never knew about (though I know what Asterisk is). I promptly joined the Asterisk SIG mailing list, and read the last 1½ years of archives. I could be interested in the meetings too, but I'll leave the beer for the rest of you to enjoy! :)
Hartmut Sager
On 3 January 2013 21:42, Adam Thompson athompso@athompso.net wrote:
There are several people here who use VoIP extensively. Most small VoIP users in Winnipeg – as far as I know – use Les’ service (www.les.net). Larger business customers (~20+ trunks) have a bit more flexibility, with Shaw, MTS and Bell all offering services, too.****
If you’re interested in VoIP, you should come to the Asterisk SIG meetings (and join the mailing list at http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/asterisk) despite the fact that they often turn into networking (IP, not human) confabs.****
In middle-aged-St. Vital (well, it’s not *quite* Old St. Vital, so what else should I call it?) just north of Bishop Grandin Blvd. & St. Mary’s Rd., I notice that my Shaw performance is highly variable; Shaw has confirmed that my local “node” is somewhat overloaded, and it’s on the upgrade list, but no ETA.****
-Adam Thompson****
athompso@athompso.net****
*From:* roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca [mailto: roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca] *On Behalf Of *Hartmut W Sager *Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:59 PM *To:* Continuation of Round Table discussion *Subject:* Re: [RndTbl] My Shaw Broadband 50 turned into Dial-up; morph into VoIP discussion****
Interesting! I am primarily a Shaw Internet user, with MTS Internet as backup, and I don't experience any large variations at Shaw around the clock (and I'm on at all hours of day and night, unpredictably).****
My Shaw plan is 25 Mbps down / 2.5 Mbps up, and I usually clock about 24 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. Moments ago I tested it, and got 17 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. So, aside from any problem you may have had in your local computer and networking, Shaw does have high capacity for handling peak loads in at least some (many/most?) areas of Winnipeg - I'm around Watt & Munroe, but had similar stats around Henderson & McLeod in early 2011 before I moved. (For the record, my ping/latency to the Rainy Day server is typically 0-11 ms.)****
My Vonage VoIP is flawless here, just as good as Shaw phone, but interestingly, my Vonage VoIP is virtually perfect even on my MTS Internet, which is typically 5-6 Mbps down / 0.34 Mbps up / ping 57 ms. Both my Shaw and my MTS have very little jitter or packet losses (important parameters for VoIP in addition to up/down/latency).****
Hmmm, maybe we should morph this into a VoIP discussion. How many of you fellow MUUG members are using serious VoIP, and what are your results? I have extensive Vonage and Skype experience, Vonage being dead-serious VoIP and Skype less so, but itself superb in its Skype-to-Skype primary form (SkypeIn and SkypeOut are much weaker). OK, have I started the ball rolling?****
Hartmut Sager (a pretty quiet member, typically just reading our RoundTable)****
Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
Extensive VOIP use?
I manage about 200 endpoints across about 15 servers here in Manitoba, we use Les extensively here in Winnipeg, though we have a few customers using Broadconnect.
Les put together a wonderful ping/jitter measure tool that tracks per call for his customers, (on the CDR page if your looking for it!). Together with Zabbix monitoring service availability, we find 99 of the issues that pop up tend to be QOS rather than ISP issues.
If I can be of any assistance to anyone who might have questions about asterisk, sip, or anything, please feel free to ask!!
Justin Davidow On Jan 4, 2013 7:54 PM, "Hartmut W Sager" hwsager@marityme.net wrote:
Thanks for the tip-off on the Asterisk SIG, which I never knew about (though I know what Asterisk is). I promptly joined the Asterisk SIG mailing list, and read the last 1½ years of archives. I could be interested in the meetings too, but I'll leave the beer for the rest of you to enjoy! :)
Hartmut Sager
On 3 January 2013 21:42, Adam Thompson athompso@athompso.net wrote:
There are several people here who use VoIP extensively. Most small VoIP users in Winnipeg – as far as I know – use Les’ service (www.les.net). Larger business customers (~20+ trunks) have a bit more flexibility, with Shaw, MTS and Bell all offering services, too.****
If you’re interested in VoIP, you should come to the Asterisk SIG meetings (and join the mailing list at http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/asterisk) despite the fact that they often turn into networking (IP, not human) confabs.****
In middle-aged-St. Vital (well, it’s not *quite* Old St. Vital, so what else should I call it?) just north of Bishop Grandin Blvd. & St. Mary’s Rd., I notice that my Shaw performance is highly variable; Shaw has confirmed that my local “node” is somewhat overloaded, and it’s on the upgrade list, but no ETA.****
-Adam Thompson****
athompso@athompso.net****
*From:* roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca [mailto: roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca] *On Behalf Of *Hartmut W Sager *Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:59 PM *To:* Continuation of Round Table discussion *Subject:* Re: [RndTbl] My Shaw Broadband 50 turned into Dial-up; morph into VoIP discussion****
Interesting! I am primarily a Shaw Internet user, with MTS Internet as backup, and I don't experience any large variations at Shaw around the clock (and I'm on at all hours of day and night, unpredictably).****
My Shaw plan is 25 Mbps down / 2.5 Mbps up, and I usually clock about 24 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. Moments ago I tested it, and got 17 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. So, aside from any problem you may have had in your local computer and networking, Shaw does have high capacity for handling peak loads in at least some (many/most?) areas of Winnipeg - I'm around Watt & Munroe, but had similar stats around Henderson & McLeod in early 2011 before I moved. (For the record, my ping/latency to the Rainy Day server is typically 0-11 ms.)****
My Vonage VoIP is flawless here, just as good as Shaw phone, but interestingly, my Vonage VoIP is virtually perfect even on my MTS Internet, which is typically 5-6 Mbps down / 0.34 Mbps up / ping 57 ms. Both my Shaw and my MTS have very little jitter or packet losses (important parameters for VoIP in addition to up/down/latency).****
Hmmm, maybe we should morph this into a VoIP discussion. How many of you fellow MUUG members are using serious VoIP, and what are your results? I have extensive Vonage and Skype experience, Vonage being dead-serious VoIP and Skype less so, but itself superb in its Skype-to-Skype primary form (SkypeIn and SkypeOut are much weaker). OK, have I started the ball rolling?****
Hartmut Sager (a pretty quiet member, typically just reading our RoundTable)****
Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
Asterisk mailing list Asterisk@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/asterisk
Oh, I forgot to say: I also looked at www.les.net - interesting, and in considerable overlap with www.voip.ms that I've also been looking at for the last month.
Hartmut Sager
On 3 January 2013 21:42, Adam Thompson athompso@athompso.net wrote:
There are several people here who use VoIP extensively. Most small VoIP users in Winnipeg – as far as I know – use Les’ service (www.les.net). Larger business customers (~20+ trunks) have a bit more flexibility, with Shaw, MTS and Bell all offering services, too.****
If you’re interested in VoIP, you should come to the Asterisk SIG meetings (and join the mailing list at http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/asterisk) despite the fact that they often turn into networking (IP, not human) confabs.****
In middle-aged-St. Vital (well, it’s not *quite* Old St. Vital, so what else should I call it?) just north of Bishop Grandin Blvd. & St. Mary’s Rd., I notice that my Shaw performance is highly variable; Shaw has confirmed that my local “node” is somewhat overloaded, and it’s on the upgrade list, but no ETA.****
-Adam Thompson****
athompso@athompso.net****
*From:* roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca [mailto: roundtable-bounces@muug.mb.ca] *On Behalf Of *Hartmut W Sager *Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:59 PM *To:* Continuation of Round Table discussion *Subject:* Re: [RndTbl] My Shaw Broadband 50 turned into Dial-up; morph into VoIP discussion****
Interesting! I am primarily a Shaw Internet user, with MTS Internet as backup, and I don't experience any large variations at Shaw around the clock (and I'm on at all hours of day and night, unpredictably).****
My Shaw plan is 25 Mbps down / 2.5 Mbps up, and I usually clock about 24 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. Moments ago I tested it, and got 17 Mbps down / 2.4 Mbps up. So, aside from any problem you may have had in your local computer and networking, Shaw does have high capacity for handling peak loads in at least some (many/most?) areas of Winnipeg - I'm around Watt & Munroe, but had similar stats around Henderson & McLeod in early 2011 before I moved. (For the record, my ping/latency to the Rainy Day server is typically 0-11 ms.)****
My Vonage VoIP is flawless here, just as good as Shaw phone, but interestingly, my Vonage VoIP is virtually perfect even on my MTS Internet, which is typically 5-6 Mbps down / 0.34 Mbps up / ping 57 ms. Both my Shaw and my MTS have very little jitter or packet losses (important parameters for VoIP in addition to up/down/latency).****
Hmmm, maybe we should morph this into a VoIP discussion. How many of you fellow MUUG members are using serious VoIP, and what are your results? I have extensive Vonage and Skype experience, Vonage being dead-serious VoIP and Skype less so, but itself superb in its Skype-to-Skype primary form (SkypeIn and SkypeOut are much weaker). OK, have I started the ball rolling?****
Hartmut Sager (a pretty quiet member, typically just reading our RoundTable)****
Roundtable mailing list Roundtable@muug.mb.ca http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
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