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p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;">I should add, visual distinctness (not "visually confusingly similar") is even more important than textual distinctness. E.g., Excel spreadsheet and Excel chewing gum do co-exist, but they would not be allowed to have "confusingly similar" logos.</span></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;">Hartmut</span><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">On Mon 24 Jul 2023 at 16:36:24 -05:00, Hartmut W Sager <<a href="mailto:hwsager@marityme.net">hwsager@marityme.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;">Those two logos are definitely "confusingly similar" (legal term in trademark law) and, being in the same field (IT), would likely not pass a trademark test for co-existence. But, does X.org actually have a trademark on it? If yes, then Musk would surely lose. But if not, then Musk could quickly seek a trademark, after which X.org would likely lose.</span><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;">In the latter case, the length of time X.org was already using this (unregistered) logo would normally not matter in trademark disputes, because they should have registered it if it was important to them. "First to register" normally wins.</span><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;"></span><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;">Hartmut</span><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif, sans-serif;"></span><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">On Mon 24 Jul 2023 at 16:02:51 -05:00, Gilbert Detillieux <<a href="mailto:Gilbert.Detillieux@umanitoba.ca">Gilbert.Detillieux@umanitoba.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt-qt" style=""><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">Apparently, Elon Musk isn't very good at searching the Internet...<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Twitter-X-X.Org-Logos">https://www.phoronix.com/news/Twitter-X-X.Org-Logos</a><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">Wonder if there will be a lawsuit over this one?<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">Gilbert<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">_______________________________________________<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">Roundtable mailing list<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:Roundtable@muug.ca">Roundtable@muug.ca</a><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><a href="https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable">https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable</a><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Roundtable mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:Roundtable@muug.ca">Roundtable@muug.ca</a><br></div><div><a href="https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable">https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><br></div></body></html>