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<div dir="auto">There are several of us that can help you with setting up a NAS, for varying amounts of pay.</div>
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Re. Cloud backup cost, have you priced out BsckBlaze's B2 (sic) and regular services? I think they have a referral program that gets you a discount, too. I back up my 4 TB NAS and it's remarkably cheap.</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Roundtable <roundtable-bounces@muug.ca> on behalf of Hartmut W Sager <hwsager@marityme.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 26, 2023 4:32:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> MUUG - Round Table <roundtable@muug.ca><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RndTbl] USB3 to Ethernet, to make NAS</font>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span class="x_font" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif,sans-serif">Thanks for your detailed Pi comments. I would sure consider this, if I were in the right headspace.<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">John Lange> My final comment is, no matter what else, just make sure that everything isn't stored on a single drive. That is a guarantee that you will lose everything eventually.<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Agreed totally! I failed to mention, both Lynn and I have the same model of external USB3 8TB HDD, and mine can be part of a backup regimen, at least initially. Not sufficient though, and we're still working on
what additional backup/syncing solution we might use (famous clouds are too expensive for, and/or don't offer, 5TB to accommodate her current data). At the moment, her collection of old HDD's where the data all came from are a feeble backup too, but we have
no intention of using those HDD's once we're into the whole re-organization.<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">John Lange> Then one day the PC hard drive failed and .....<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">John Lange> For pictures I backup the originals onto another drive, but I also replicate a lower quality version to the cloud which is free and unlimited so worse case I'll always have a copy.<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Good point! A lower quality picture in hand is worth much more than all the pictures in the (lost) bush.<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Trevor> Whatever the Seagate MTBF says, take it with a grain of salt. Look carefully at the box/instructions/specs to see if it says "not for always-on use".<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Indeed, I did conflate high-MTBF with "good for always-on". Now if we do go for the extra computer or SBC on a LAN, we have noticed that this external USB3 8TB HDD connected to her current desktop computer does spin-down
quite soon after last access, and her access pattern would be a few hours of almost continuous access followed by no access for the rest of the 24-hour day.<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Trevor> ..... make sure the NAS uses NTFS .....<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Yes!<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Trevor> John and Adam are right: back the thing up. Buy a 2nd 8TB USB drive, the cheapest one you can find<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">See somewhere above; for the moment, we have that 2nd HDD (mine), but we may get her something additional. But question: Are the cheap ones "reliable" if we operate such a HDD for very few hours, or are they junky
all around, and prone to failure even with low usage? I suspect the latter, and if so, I'll avoid the "cheapest one".<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Trevor> Just do a byte-level copy of the whole thing, or a file-level backup, every few months</div>
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<b>always</b> do file-level backups/copies. I never want the reading of </span>backups/copies to be dependent on any software. Of course, if I have to image a partition, that's a different<span class="x_font" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif,sans-serif"></span>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Trevor> Also, John's Pi solution might be ideal if you don't want to wing it, and even better if someone makes some nice NAS OS images that you can just plop onto it?? For your use case, performance limitations won't
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">If we go Pi, I presume I could engage one of you MUUG folks here for payment?<span class="x_font" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif,sans-serif"><br>
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