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<div dir="auto" style="">Pretty sure you won't see it there first, but...</div>
<div dir="auto" style="">Cloudflare and Noction and Kentik are all already monitoring it. Don't know if they have anything more real time than blog posts, though.</div>
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<div style="" dir="auto">The scope of the outage guarantees it's not just an eBGP failure - e911 operations should be unaffected by anything short of the complete collapse the the Telco core.</div>
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<div style="" dir="auto">My money is on an internal naming service (not DNS, more like JNDI or the SS7 service naming service whose name I can't remember) and a botched upgrade, plus some previously-unknown circular dependencies preventing a cold restart.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Just trying to track the Rogers AS812 route announcements to get a sense when they may be coming back up. As of 20:00 UTC (which I think is 3pm Central) they had zero routes.
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 4:02 PM Adam Thompson <<a href="mailto:athompso@athompso.net">athompso@athompso.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span>Oh, another way to get – not the BGP data, but other data that can act as a proxy – is to run RIPE Atlas queries. Among the queries you can run are “traceroute” queries, which can give some of the same resulting insights as having
the raw BGP routes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Roundtable <<a href="mailto:roundtable-bounces@muug.ca" target="_blank">roundtable-bounces@muug.ca</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Thompson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 8, 2022 3:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Continuation of Round Table discussion <<a href="mailto:Roundtable@muug.ca" target="_blank">Roundtable@muug.ca</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RndTbl] BGP data in real time?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Generally correct. The data is VERY resource-intensive to process and AFAIK that delay literally just reflects the processing time.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">If you want real-time, you generally need your own BGP router(a) so you can suck data from it/them.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">You can also pay obscene amounts of money to Oracle (who now owns a few network intelligence companies<span style="font-size:12pt"> including Thousandeyes among others) to get closer to real time, depending on what data you're after.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Email Theo and/or me with more details if you don't want to share them publicly.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></strong> Roundtable <<a href="mailto:roundtable-bounces@muug.ca" target="_blank">roundtable-bounces@muug.ca</a>> on behalf of John Lange <<a href="mailto:john@johnlange.ca" target="_blank">john@johnlange.ca</a>><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</span></strong> Friday, July 8, 2022, 15:45<br>
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<strong><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Subject:</span></strong> [RndTbl] BGP data in real time?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Does anyone know of a good way for monitoring BGP route data in near real-time? There are several public BGPPlay sites out there but the data seems delayed?
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">That being said, one challenge I'm having with the sites is the time stamps don't say which timezone they are in. I assume it is UTC but if that is the case then the data is at least a couple hours old on any of the sites I've found.
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