<html><head></head><body>Rubber Ducky Debugging.<br>Because you may as well be explaining the problem to your rubber duck bath toy, for all the actual assistance you actually needed from the other person.<br>-Adam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 12, 2021 7:14:20 a.m. CDT, Alberto Abrao <alberto@abrao.net> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre dir="auto" class="k9mail"><br>On 2021-05-11 10:27 p.m., Gilbert E. Detillieux wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">OK, I'm a bit sheepish to admit what the problem appears to have been: <br>wrong ownership on the crontab file. I've made it owned by root now, <br>and this seems to have fixed my issues.<br></blockquote><br>"he who is without sin among you, let he be the first to throw a stone..."<br><br>If anyone here thinks Gilbert should be ashamed, show your face and <br>we'll be sure to point and laugh when your turn comes.<br><br>Because *it will*.<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>Thanks for Alberto for getting me to re-examine my cron file, which <br>got me thinking about permissions and ownership of the file, after <br>seeing no problem with the content itself.<br></blockquote><br>I did not do a thing!<br><br>I was reading an anecdote that some coders ask for another coder to hear <br>an explanation of what they are trying to do, when baffled that <br>something does not work as it should.<br><br>Most of the time, during the explanation, the baffled coder end up <br>finding something he/she missed on his/her own, usually trivial, but <br>perfectly OK to skip, considering all that is going on while they're "in <br>the zone".<br><br>You fixed your own problem. I was just trying to recap what threw me for <br>a loop when I was setting up LibreNMS. In my case - if I recall <br>correctly - I skipped the cron file entirely. But that was a while ago, <br>and it was past 10PM after a looong day (yep, that I do remember... <br>sigh), so... yeah.<br><br>I am glad it helped, but all I really did was take you out of "the zone" <br>for a little while.<br><br><br>For the record, without the cron file with all the housekeeping duties, <br>LibreNMS will cough up a hairball and not give you a clue of what's <br>really going on.<br><br>Thus, make sure you have your /etc/cron.d/librenms file properly set up, <br>both content (hi!) and permissions/ownership (hi Gilbert!).<br><br>:)<br><br><br>Kind regards,<br>Alberto Abrao<hr>Roundtable mailing list<br>Roundtable@muug.ca<br><a href="https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable">https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable</a><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>