<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Gmail spam again. Besides Trevor's extensive contribution, I have some ideas too, and I'll try to write it up tonight (no promise though).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"> <br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><font size="2">Hartmut W Sager - Tel +1-204-339-8331<br></font></span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 16:57, Alberto Abrao <<a href="mailto:alberto@abrao.net">alberto@abrao.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Maybe if I try to type some more?<br>
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<p>The headers now match the ones Trevor use.<br>
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<p>Funny thing... I sent a brief message to my Gmail account and it
went straight to spam.</p>
<p>Second one (not a reply, brand new) I decided to type some more,
not as brief as the first one. Inbox.</p>
<p>So I wonder what will happen with THIS one?<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 12:46,
Alberto Abrao <<a href="mailto:alberto@abrao.net" target="_blank">alberto@abrao.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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with this one...<br>
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Alberto Abrao<br>
204-202-1778<br>
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On 2020-04-02 3:27 a.m., Trevor Cordes wrote:<br>
> On 2020-03-31 Alberto Abrao wrote:<br>
>> Does anyone have any idea of what should I change
on my end? That's<br>
>> weird.<br>
> Looking at your DKIM settings in your headers, I think
I spotted the<br>
> problem.<br>
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> Alberto's:<br>
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h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:<br>
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message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:<br>
> content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:<br>
> in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references;<br>
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> Mine:<br>
> h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References;<br>
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> You are trying to protect too many headers,
*especially* the ones that<br>
> mailman needs to change. Also, the case on yours is
not RFC (though<br>
> probably doesn't matter) and many headers are
duplicated (weird!)<br>
> indicating a misconfiguration.<br>
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> Find your DKIM settings and try shortening your
protected headers to a<br>
> list like mine (above). And fix the case, and
duplication. Any header<br>
> not listed will not count in DKIM's hash of your email.<br>
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> Critically, I think you need to make sure you do NOT
have "sender:"<br>
> protected, as mailman will always be adding/changing
that header, and<br>
> that will throw off the hash and DKIM verification.<br>
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> MUUG's mailman may also play with the content-*.
That's why I'd stick<br>
> with a very small set of headers. Spammers can't
really make use of<br>
> those extra headers anyhow, so they don't need to be
protected.<br>
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