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    <p>Whatever you do, don't forget that activation and licensing are
      different things. You can have a machine that's activated yet
      fails an audit, and that'll give you - or your client - a nasty
      headache.</p>
    <p>It's common to find some sites selling keys that would activate
      the server and work no problem, yet if the client ever gets
      audited... well...</p>
    <p>Be careful!<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Alberto Abrao
204-202-1778
204-558-6886
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-03-30 2:24 p.m., Adam Thompson
      wrote:<br>
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      <p>Also, beware: it can sometimes be cheaper to buy new hardware
        with a WS OEM license than to up-license an existing system
        using a retail license.   Right now it looks like a retail
        license of WS2019 Essentials only costs US$500, but there's a
        whole bunch of gotchas with the Essentials license.  I can't
        find a good, single, reference that captures them all, sorry. 
        Standard is where OEM pricing begins to really be useful.</p>
      <p>Anything else requires signing an Open License agreement with
        an MS reseller.  MS does NOT seem to want to make it easy for a
        medium-sized business to get on board the MS train...
        tiny-to-small shops is easy, and huge shops reasonably so, but
        the mid-market as always gets left behind.</p>
      <p>-Adam</p>
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      <p>On 2020-03-30 14:10, Dan Keizer wrote:</p>
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          <div>thanks Adam ... he had been told performance was better
            .. so - that's what i know ... i dont think the issue is
            multi-connections.  tells me he needs to look at this better
            to find out the real goods.</div>
          <div>will see where this ends up going :-)</div>
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          <div>Dan.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:06
            PM Adam Thompson <<a href="mailto:athompso@athompso.net"
              moz-do-not-send="true">athompso@athompso.net</a>>
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              <p>Also, unless the PC has >32GB RAM or >4 CPU
                sockets (not cores), the bit about better using hardware
                resources is 100% B.S. and is a holdover from the XP
                days.  There are plenty of other reasons to use server
                instead of workstation licenses, though - the main one
                that comes to mind is licensing: it's not legal to
                service more than 4 (???) remote clients from a
                workstation-licensed system, or something like that. 
                Also, the TCP stack tuning is set for much higher
                connection counts on server, a workstation OS may start
                refusing connections much sooner than anticipated.</p>
              <p>-Adam</p>
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              <p>On 2020-03-30 14:01, Dan Keizer wrote:</p>
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                <div dir="ltr">thanks for the info Scott - as you can
                  tell, I'm not a windows guy, so i dont know their
                  licencing.  good to know though.  Dan.</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020
                    at 1:59 PM Scott Toderash <<a
                      href="mailto:scott@100percenthelpdesk.com"
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                    <div>iirc that's technically not allowed because MS
                      does not let you transfer licenses to another
                      machine, since sometime around XP days.<br>
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                      (And I don't have any kicking around anyway.)<br>
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                      Which is why, of course we all like GPL etc.<br>
                      <br>
                      There is the monthly option if you sign up for
                      SPLA but it's likely not worth it for just 1
                      machine since the minimum is around $150/month.
                      But then you could get other licenses for other
                      things too.<br>
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                      <div>On 2020-03-30 1:48 p.m., Dan Keizer wrote:</div>
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                          <div>well, first off this is not for me
                            (honest!) ..</div>
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                          <div>a guy I know is looking to run a windows
                            server licence for some specific software
                            vertical he is looking at ... (i asked -
                            they dont have a linux port)</div>
                          <div> </div>
                          <div>the company (no idea who it is) claims
                            the software works best on server licence as
                            it utilizes</div>
                          <div>the hardware better ...</div>
                          <div> </div>
                          <div>he's looking at trying to save money on
                            the licence, so does anyone have 2016 or
                            2008 server licences on dead machines that
                            can be repurposed? </div>
                          <div>wondering if the likes of MER may as
                            well....</div>
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                          <div>thanks.</div>
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                          <div>Dan.</div>
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