<div dir='auto'>To the best of my knowledge, the "recent" actions and activities at ICANN are not politically-linked at all. It's been going on for quite a few years - see the .amazon debacle as an example.<div dir="auto">Nor is there anything illegal, per se, about the PIR acquisition, at least that's publicly known right now.</div><div dir="auto">There is a fair bit of speculation about why, exactly, ICANN is behaving the way it is - even kleptomania and incompetence can only explain so much. Aliens preparing to cripple our technological society hardly sounds like a more far-fetched explanation at this point!</div><div dir="auto">-Adam</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov. 26, 2019 21:39, Hartmut W Sager <hwsager@marityme.net> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Yes, I was about to make a similar comment - the best ccTLD's, like ".ca" and ".uk", should be relatively safe, since even with ICANN's overall authority over <b>all</b> TLD's, surely they cannot dictate to CIRA or Nominet that these country-based authorities must go the privatization/capitalism route.</div><div style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"> <br /></div><div style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I like the idea of doing some 10-year renewals right now, because that will at least deprive the new profiteers of an initial 10 years of ill-gotten gains, but it does result in a long-term gamble on establishing a well-regarded and well-recognized ".org" site.</div><div style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"> <br /></div><div style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I presume this new privatization move is loosely related to the same political forces in the U.S. that ended net-neutrality in 2019.<br /></div><div style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"> <br /></div><div style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"></div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif"><font size="2">Hartmut W Sager - Tel +1-204-339-8331<br /></font></span><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 12:40, Adam Thompson <<a href="mailto:athompso@athompso.net">athompso@athompso.net</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , 'geneva' , sans-serif">
<p>By definition, since the blatant failure of governance is occurring at ICANN and the *entire* domain name system falls within ICANN's remit, no.</p>
<p>However, .ca - managed by CIRA, which has a fairly strict mandate (so far, anyway), is a fairly good bet IMHO.</p>
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<div>On 2019-11-26 10:29, Glen Ditchfield wrote:<br />> As you may have heard, ICANN removed the price caps on .org domains, <br />> then<br />> quietly decided to sell the .org registry to a private equity firm <br />> linked to a<br />> former ICANN CEO and several American billionaires (https://<br />> <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/26/org_selloff_internet/">www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/26/org_selloff_internet/</a>).<br />> <br />> So, a bunch of respectable organizations have started a petition to <br />> stop that,<br />> at <a href="https://savedotorg.org/">https://savedotorg.org/</a> . Signing might help.<br /><br /><br />Given the absolute failure of governance at ICANN, which seems to be <br />spreading to NRO, IANA, etc., I think "Save dotOrg" has about as much <br />chance of success as "Save Concordia" did locally, no matter the <br />justness of the cause.<br /><br />What *would* be a good idea, though, despite the "rewarding bad <br />behaviour" aspect of it, would be renew any .org domains you have, NOW, <br />for the maximum term (10 years). Several industry observers are <br />expecting prices to rise >10x, so you'll probably be saving a good chunk <br />of money by doing it now.<br /><br />-Adam<br />_______________________________________________<br />Roundtable mailing list<br /><a href="mailto:Roundtable@muug.ca">Roundtable@muug.ca</a><br /><a href="https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable">https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable</a></div>
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