<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Oh, good to know. Maybe there's hope, albeit maybe not for the PDFs.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 29, 2017, at 04:25, Adam Thompson <<a href="mailto:athompso@athompso.net">athompso@athompso.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Both Amazon and Kobo (Rakuten) sell DRM-free e-media. It largely depends on the publisher. Both online stores specify whether or not the item you're buying has DRM or not.<br>
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-Adam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On June 29, 2017 1:00:57 AM CDT, Trevor Cordes <<a href="mailto:trevor@tecnopolis.ca">trevor@tecnopolis.ca</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">On 2017-06-28 Tim Lavoie wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> One question now though, can you still buy DRM-free eBooks? What you<br> bought directly from them was unsoiled, but I think everything<br> through Amazon or Kobo was DRM-infested.<br></blockquote><br>I'll never buy digital from Amazon so I'm not sure, but I think that Az<br>is DRM-only and can only be read with Kindle or an Az app or a specific<br>Az web page (though I could be wrong). I'm sure some MUUGer has bought<br>Az digital books and can enlighten us further.<br><br>(BTW, Kobo is tied to Indigo/Chapter's competing device/format,<br>completely incompatible with Az's Kindle.)<br><br><br>Further to my other post, here's some more info on the ORM change:<br><br>Official explanation: (disappointed this isn't Tim writing this)<br><a href="https://www.oreilly.com/ideas/were-reinventing-too">https://www.oreilly.com/ideas/were-reinventing-too</a><br><br>Pages and pages of angry user comments:<br><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14659462">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14659462</a><br><br>Oh ya, and it seems that the biggest loss here is that never again can<br>one get a PDF format ORM title. It's toast, kaput. I tried all the<br>formats I could use to read my digitally-bought ORM titles and finally<br>settled on using PDF exclusively as it's the only format I could<br>stomach. The others just stunk when it came to layout/formatting and<br>images/figures. And their page numbers never made any sense. With the<br>PDF I knew I was looking at exactly what the printed book looked like.<br>Only on my phone would I touch any other format (epub usually), because<br>of limited screen space.<br><br>Final note, I guess MUUG *really* won't be getting any book or ebook<br>donations from ORM ever again (not that we have for 2+ years now). And<br>no more "user group discount". And I'm pretty sure this also does away<br>with any future O'Reilly (and possibly sub-brands like No Starch!?)<br>Humble Bundle like the two MUUG has bought already.<br><br>Hey, it could be worse, they could have announced they were<br>discontinuing print books completely!!! (Knock on wood...)<br><hr><br>Roundtable mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Roundtable@muug.ca">Roundtable@muug.ca</a><br><a href="https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable">https://muug.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable</a><br></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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