<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks for the enlightenment, especially all the marketplace details.  (One private reply already straightened me out on the Safari matter.)<br> <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hartmut W Sager - Tel +1-204-339-8331, +1-204-515-1701, +1-204-515-1700, +1-810-471-4600<br></span></font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 June 2017 at 20:04, Adam Thompson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:athompso@athompso.net" target="_blank">athompso@athompso.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>ORA (O'Reilly & Associates) Safari is their online eBook all-you-can-read subscription service which includes every ORA book and quite a lot of others as well.<br>
I believe it predates the Apple Safari browser.<br>
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Safari subscriptions are obviously healthy enough, and individual book sales weak enough, that they figure it's not worth maintaining a retail storefront anymore.<br>
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Although there's no mention that I saw either way, I would assume you can continue to purchase ORA books like every other book, though booksellers (including Amazon, of course).<br>
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Based on what I've heard from other publishers, Amazon - which likely represents the bulk of their print sales nowadays - punishes publishers who compete directly with Amazon, especially those that discount their books even further.  ORA didn't discount further, but did offer the eBook with the print edition.<br>
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So they decided to go back to their roots as a publisher, plus a subscription service.  It's their right to change things.  Although I do wish *something* would stay the same these days.  Something good, I mean - government incompetence and inefficiency seems to be a constant even though I wish that would change!<br>
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-Adam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On June 28, 2017 7:22:21 PM CDT, Hartmut W Sager <<a href="mailto:hwsager@marityme.net" target="_blank">hwsager@marityme.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Huh???  I am stunned!  And, it's "as of today".  No prior notice?  What happened there so suddenly?<br> <br>I am also somewhat confused by the alternative ways of buying O'Reilly books.  I don't know what this Safari thing is all about for buying books - I thought Safari is an alternate browser.<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"> <br></div><div><div class="m_5145383259774430954gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hartmut W Sager - Tel <a href="tel:(204)%20339-8331" value="+12043398331" target="_blank">+1-204-339-8331</a><br></span></font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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