[RndTbl] Linux "write"

Adam Thompson athompso at athompso.net
Sun Jul 2 23:25:39 CDT 2017

KDE's terminal is more than a bit overweight as terminal code goes, but AFAIK hasn't succumbed to GNOME's we'll-tell-you-what-you-want Apple-like mentality.  Yet, anyway.  I'm pretty sure all the major terminals (gnome-terminal excepted, obviously) haven't reached that state.
So that leaves you with, off the top of my head,
Surely *one* of them will meet your needs?  And if not those, "dnf search terminal" should return about a hundred more.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roundtable [mailto:roundtable-bounces at muug.ca] On Behalf Of
> Trevor Cordes
> Sent: July 2, 2017 18:01
> To: Gilles Detillieux <grdetil at scrc.umanitoba.ca>
> Cc: Continuation of Round Table discussion <roundtable at muug.ca>
> Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Linux "write"
> Follow-up: I made a bz for it
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1466993
> and was promptly informed it's an upstream WONTFIX.  See:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747046
> So the GNOME guys in all their wisdom decided utmp wasn't important
> and proceeded to rip out all the relevant code:
> "pty-helper removal is a nice win:  22 files changed, 22 insertions(+),
> 2944 deletions(-)"
> Now I see what is wrong with "the kids these days", mainly the GNOME
> and systemd clowns.  Their idea of a great "win" is to rip out 3000 lines of
> code that destroys agreed upon conventions?  I wonder how many other
> things broke because of their destructive fervor.
> So write to a pts is broken.  But it's also broken to just "write trevor",
> unless you have at least one xterm open, then the xterm gets the
> message but not the g-t's.
> For fun I tried wall.  This is even worse.  With only g-t's open the wall
> gives no error, appears to proceed, but produces no output on ANY g-t!
> WTF?  At least write tells you it ain't going to work.  So much for admins
> telling their users a reboot is imminent with wall.
> Fun MUUG exercise: can anyone think of other standard tools that
> would be broken by this?  I'll test them out and add them to the bug.
> Expert MUUG exercise: can anyone think of a workaround I can use to
> write to a specific pts without using the "write" command?  I'd still like to
> get this to work as a script I wrote depends on it.
> Bonus exercise: can anyone recommend a terminal I should use instead
> of g-t.  Seems every year I run into another g-t "XXX deletions, nice win!"
> problem.  Absolute requirements: must be able to CTL-click (or
> something-click) urls to open them in a browser; must have either sane
> or user-configurable double-click-select characters; configurable long
> scrollback buffer.  Gravy g-t has I can live without if I must: rewraps long
> lines when window is resized.  Probably more things I can't immediately
> think of but use every day :-)
> Oh ya, and xterm is very weird (unforgiving) in where you have to click to
> drag to select text, compared to g-t at least.  But that I could live with, I
> guess.
> Thanks!
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